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0 pointsshakow3y ago0 comments

But then that's the role of the httpS query with which you will fetch your data.

And if you don't trust your http layer and/or Github's certificate, then you should not trust their archive anyway.

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> And if you don't trust your http layer and/or Github's certificate, then you should not trust their archive anyway.

The nice thing about checksumming the tarball is that once you’ve done so, it doesn’t matter whether you trust GitHub or the HTTPS layer or not.

GitHub and its HTTPS cert provide no protection against a compromised project re‐tagging a repo with malicious source, or even deleting and re‐uploading a stable release tarball with something malicious.

viraptor3y ago

The certificate guarantees the source of the file, not the trust you should put in its contents. I can upload malware as a github project release file and https doesn't change that you shouldn't download/run it.

For software distribution this actually sometimes goes the other way - debian/ubuntu uses http (no s) for their packages, because the content itself is signed by the distribution and this way you can easily cache it at multiple levels.

shakowOP3y ago

> I can upload malware as a github project release file and https doesn't change that you shouldn't download/run it.

If you can't trust the archive published by the owner themselves, you are already screwed; a stable hash will just make sure that you trust harder that you are, indeed, downloading contaminated code.

I'm not sure most people here understand how checksums/hashs work, what they protect you against, and what they don't.

c4mpute3y ago

Software published via GitHub isn't really "published by the owner". The owner typically doesn't control what GitHub does and doesn't always control his own GitHub account.

It isn't only that people don't know what checksums, hashes, and signatures do, it is also problematic that they blindly trust or ignore middlemen. Most supply chain "security" is security theater, almost never is something vetted end-to-end.

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