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0 pointspaulcole3y ago0 comments

The first two situations you mention almost certainly aren’t copyright violations. The third is at least a solid “maybe.”

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elcomet3y ago

They aren't, or they shouldn't be, but that's the point of the parent's comment.

Look at the videos flagged by youtube or copyright trolls, a lot of them are not actual copyright violations, but they are flagged anyway by the algorithm and removed or demonetized. And it takes a lot of work to fight those claims.

paulcoleOP3y ago

No, that doesn’t seem to be the point of the parent’s comment. That comment is treating those activities like copyright violations when they’re not. Why would the parent imagine an omniscient copyright bot that is probably wrong?

Me singing happy birthday at home or painting a picture for myself to relax is already demonetized. There doesn’t need to be an omniscient (and wrong) copyright bot to do that.

bediger40003y ago

The first situation isn't copyright violation because some monied entity went out and litigated against Warner/Chappell music. That's the problem with copyright - until you've litigated, which is expensive, you just can't tell what's in and what's out of copyright. You wrote "almost certainly" because of that.

paulcoleOP3y ago

> You wrote "almost certainly" because of that.

No, I didn’t.

I was hedging against the too-clever HN commenter coming back and saying, “The robot knew you were going to sell the painting” or “You sang the game on the Jumbotron at Yankee Stadium.”

bediger40003y ago

Because of the litigation, even singing "Happy birthday to you" on the Jumbotron is not infringement. But only because of the litigation.

JohnFen3y ago

The third exists in a form right now. I've worked for a couple of companies that require all code to be run through a scanner intended to detect if that code has been lifted from open source codebases. You won't get fired if it has, but you will be required to remove it before it is accepted into the codebase.

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elcomet3y ago

They aren't, or they shouldn't be, but that's the point of the parent's comment.

paulcoleOP3y ago

Me singing happy birthday at home or painting a picture for myself to relax is already demonetized. There doesn’t need to be an omniscient (and wrong) copyright bot to do that.

bediger40003y ago

paulcoleOP3y ago

> You wrote "almost certainly" because of that.

No, I didn’t.

I was hedging against the too-clever HN commenter coming back and saying, “The robot knew you were going to sell the painting” or “You sang the game on the Jumbotron at Yankee Stadium.”

bediger40003y ago

Because of the litigation, even singing "Happy birthday to you" on the Jumbotron is not infringement. But only because of the litigation.

JohnFen3y ago

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