Eh, I came to them after about 15 years of thinking Apple users were kinda culty and must be wrong about how good Apple stuff is, and mostly running Linux (though I started on Windows/DOS). No, they're that good, overall. They do fuck up or do annoying things pretty often (requiring iTunes for iPods would be one of those things) but every other option (and there... aren't that many, really) is so much worse that they've yet to push me to switch. I'd love to see a real competitor.