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0 pointsbaremetal3y ago0 comments

Direct democracy with full vote transparency for every voter.

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I don't what you mean by vote transparency, but I definitely do not want to be accountable to my boss for voting against his political opinions.

ianai3y ago

Point is, whatever option is agreeable wouldn’t require the kind of build out to get us here-wiring up the internet, researching and scaling smartphone tech, etc. direct democracy seems like a pretty obvious max for logistical problems to governance and modern tech would make it possible. So anything below it possible too.

whatshisface3y ago

They have direct democracy in Switzerland and they don't need the internet for that.

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WalterBright3y ago

That's what the USSR had. Didn't work so well. A secret ballot is a major requirement for democracy.

barbazoo3y ago

There was one option on the ballot, I think that was more the problem. Having choice and not having someone with a gun escort you to the ballot box are bigger requirements. If there were no repercussions, voting could totally be open, don't you think?

suddenclarity3y ago

There will always be repercussions. Sweden have been doing public voting for decades by forcing you to pick the ballot out in the open, before going into a booth and putting the public ballot into an envelope. Your family, friends and the whole neighborhood will know whomever voted for the wrong party and will treat you thereafter.

EU and election authorities have demanded change to make it private but the previously ruling party didn't want to. Now we got a new government a few months ago and this was one of their first tasks, so it might be changed in time for the election in 2026.

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WalterBright3y ago

Do you really want the thug in power to know you didn't vote for him?

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moremetadata3y ago

Why do you feel the need to hand over your decision making to someone else?

I've seen no evidence that the democracy model employed across large parts of the western world and elsewhere, is anything other than criminal. Its like watching a punch and judy show where the public get to chose their puppets, but the shadowy puppeteers are lurking in the background, mainly wearing or have worn fancy dress.

baremetalOP3y ago

what do you suggest?

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