Rather, one would hope that Apple sees it realizes that their short-sighted, bone-headed, pea-brained idea to eliminate scroll bars should be rolled back. Of course, I'm not holding my breath. Yet another example of their crusade to prioritize form over function, exemplifying why I find their products to be infuriating to deal with.
> apple sucks and is the reason for all evil because scroll bars
we dont have scroll bars on mobile as in days of yore. maybe browsers need to finish playing catchup to the threat and interaction models. having a vm on your machine with access to everything you do without sandbox is pretty bad
The air travel industry uses the Swiss cheese security model.
EVERYONE does what they can to improve security. The equivalent would be both Google and Apple making improvements.
Both of the problems might be leveraged in a future attack. Fix along the whole chain of events, not just break it - defense in depth.
Critiques of Apple from people that have this sort of wide-ranging vitriolic hate for Apple are a dime a dozen, and don’t make for any sort of interesting or enjoyable conversation.
Most Macs ship with a trackpad, which means I can’t remember when I last deliberately gripped a scroll bar. They are just a waste of space most of the time, even as an affordance/reminder that scrolling is possible.
I stand by the original argument that for most people, a minor twitch of their fingers on the trackpad reveals this information if they want it. I very rarely do want this though, and on average I prefer that it's not shown by default, or until I move.
This discussion was prompted by a UI fail in presenting relevant security information. Relying on permanent scroll bars would still be a UX fail, even if it were the default on Macs.
Today I was again reminded that many years ago some UX designer thought it would be a great idea to remove back/forward buttons from the context menu in Firefox if I accidentally select some text on a page I visit.
No one was asked and when someone filed a bug it was ignored because ux designers had already decided.
Result:
- a few times every month back/ forward buttons are missing
- the look and feel of the context menu changes for no good reason
