Most Macs ship with a trackpad, which means I can’t remember when I last deliberately gripped a scroll bar. They are just a waste of space most of the time, even as an affordance/reminder that scrolling is possible.
I stand by the original argument that for most people, a minor twitch of their fingers on the trackpad reveals this information if they want it. I very rarely do want this though, and on average I prefer that it's not shown by default, or until I move.
This discussion was prompted by a UI fail in presenting relevant security information. Relying on permanent scroll bars would still be a UX fail, even if it were the default on Macs.
Today I was again reminded that many years ago some UX designer thought it would be a great idea to remove back/forward buttons from the context menu in Firefox if I accidentally select some text on a page I visit.
No one was asked and when someone filed a bug it was ignored because ux designers had already decided.
Result:
- a few times every month back/ forward buttons are missing
- the look and feel of the context menu changes for no good reason
https://superuser.com/questions/1074338/disable-back-in-chro...
But we are only "users", even if each if us converted 10 or more IE6 users and bothered IT departments to allow Firefox, web sites to write for web standards and not IE etc etc.
When they ask for money, we are "valued community members". When we have a question we are just annoying "users" it seems.
And the worst part: if you donate to Mozilla it doesn't go to Firefox. It goes to some other project.
Because Firefox is a profit center for Mozilla and they are milking it dry year after year and our donations comes on top of that.
Still I use Firefox. It is still better for my purposes (large hierarchies of related pages that lives from hours to weeks).
And it is not like using Google Chrome would improve the situation.
But lately (maybe the last twelve months?) I have started to use LibreWolf too. I use it as my research browser while using Firefox for all logged in work. It feels good, like using Firefox back in the days.
And if I can work against both Mozilla and Google simultaneously, maybe I should cut Firefox completely :-]