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0 pointsSpivak3y ago0 comments

Your ISP, "mapping your network" means being able to take data that was previously an amalgam of a household and reliably split it into the individual members and devices for better targeting.

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kmbfjr3y ago

Take a moment and learn about Nokia’s Deepfield or Kintec.

The ISPs have the ability to see what is on your network by IPv4 egress. They have been able to do this for a decade.

Worrying that an IPv6 address divulges the network forgets that IPv4 devices betray their existence through DNS, their destinations and other network behavior.

The ISPs know.

justeleblanc3y ago

Unless you're part of the tiny percent of people who run their own router, your ISP can just monitor what goes through your ISP-provided router.

zamnos3y ago

With the home router+wifi market estimated to be USD 2070.43 million in 2022, I wouldn't say it's a tiny percentage of people, just people you know.

bert643y ago

Most people don't buy their own router, the ISPs bulk buy thousands of routers at a time. The ISPs make up most of the market.

Many of these routers are managed by the ISP using protocols such as TR-069, several ISPs have already been found to not only manage the devices but also monitor certain data including what devices are present.

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justeleblanc3y ago

1. Where does this stat come from?

2. You can't say anything about the percentage with just the absolute market value. At the very least you need something else to compare it too.

Please, be serious.

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kmbfjr3y ago

Take a moment and learn about Nokia’s Deepfield or Kintec.

The ISPs have the ability to see what is on your network by IPv4 egress. They have been able to do this for a decade.

Worrying that an IPv6 address divulges the network forgets that IPv4 devices betray their existence through DNS, their destinations and other network behavior.

The ISPs know.

justeleblanc3y ago

Unless you're part of the tiny percent of people who run their own router, your ISP can just monitor what goes through your ISP-provided router.

zamnos3y ago

With the home router+wifi market estimated to be USD 2070.43 million in 2022, I wouldn't say it's a tiny percentage of people, just people you know.

bert643y ago

Most people don't buy their own router, the ISPs bulk buy thousands of routers at a time. The ISPs make up most of the market.

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justeleblanc3y ago

1. Where does this stat come from?

2. You can't say anything about the percentage with just the absolute market value. At the very least you need something else to compare it too.

Please, be serious.

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