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0 pointsArkhaine_kupo2y ago0 comments

> Poverty and crime are not married.

They 100% are.

The plural of anecdote is not data. Your story is nice, but the reality is poverty is heavily correlated with crime. And social nets address both at once.

letting poor people suffer because some poor people can improve their station in life through luck, hard work and a number of other extrenous factors is unethical.

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vasilipupkin2y ago

this is really not true. Poverty is correlated with crime, but the magnitude of this correlation is quite small. Portugal is very safe and very poor compared to most of the US

Arkhaine_kupoOP2y ago

> Portugal is very safe and very poor compared to most of the US

Portugal has lower gdp than the US but it isn't poor internally. People spend less % on housing food etc than in the US.

Also having no guns means a lot of crime is less violent, not that there is less of it.

vasilipupkin2y ago

what does it mean "not poor internally"? I've been to Portugal, compared to US it's just poor. Source for "spend less % on housing, food" ? very much doubt this. Poor in the US get food stamps, etc.

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0 pointsArkhaine_kupo2y ago0 comments

> Poverty and crime are not married.

They 100% are.

The plural of anecdote is not data. Your story is nice, but the reality is poverty is heavily correlated with crime. And social nets address both at once.

letting poor people suffer because some poor people can improve their station in life through luck, hard work and a number of other extrenous factors is unethical.

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vasilipupkin2y ago

this is really not true. Poverty is correlated with crime, but the magnitude of this correlation is quite small. Portugal is very safe and very poor compared to most of the US

Arkhaine_kupoOP2y ago

> Portugal is very safe and very poor compared to most of the US

Portugal has lower gdp than the US but it isn't poor internally. People spend less % on housing food etc than in the US.

Also having no guns means a lot of crime is less violent, not that there is less of it.

vasilipupkin2y ago

what does it mean "not poor internally"? I've been to Portugal, compared to US it's just poor. Source for "spend less % on housing, food" ? very much doubt this. Poor in the US get food stamps, etc.

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