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0 pointsgumballindie2y ago0 comments

Yeah one of the two is constantly brutalising its neighbours, while the other is busy building tech and defending smaller, but freedom loving, countries. Our grandparents told us stories about the russian army that many found hard to believe. And here we are proven that they were right all along.

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biorach2y ago

>defending smaller, but freedom loving, countries

You mean America was doing the defending? That's hilarious.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in...

And then there's the horror show of American intervention in South East Asia, and then there's the meddle, I mean Middle East.

capableweb2y ago

The US has been proven to meddle in democratic elections in every single continent, except Africa I think, at this point. But meddling in Africa will surely be made public at one point or another.

ethbr02y ago

On the other hand, are we really comparing the leadership of Afghanistan and Iraq to Ukraine and deciding these things are the same?

Last I checked, Ukraine hadn't invaded its neighbors, gassed ethnic minorities, or taken freedom from its entire female population.

The US handled Afghanistan and Iraq poorly, and lied about reasons for going in, but there were actual underlying reasons.

Ukraine is only being invaded because Russia thinks it can.

Hell, Ukraine explicitly gave up its weapons of mass destruction... in exchange for security guarantees... from Russia.

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cultofmetatron2y ago

> But meddling in Africa will surely be made public at one point or another.

The french has most of africa on lockdown in that regard

capableweb2y ago

> defending smaller, but freedom loving, countries

Lol.

> Our grandparents told us stories about the russian army that many found hard to believe. And here we are proven that they were right all along.

This is true for any military power, read stories about areas under occupation from "freedom loving" or "non-freedom loving" (?) military groups, and you'll find it is equally horrible no matter what country the groups are from.

tim3332y ago

Standards change though. I mean a lot of developed nations did atrocities a century or two ago but Russia is a bit behind the times.

capableweb2y ago

I'm not sure if you count the US as developed or not, but in case you do, here are some highlights more recently than "a century or two ago":

- Haditha massacre

- Mahmudiyah rape and killings

- Abu Ghraib prison

- Enhanced interrogation techniques

- Sơn Thắng massacre

- Countless of others

All by US officials and/or military members.

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ElectricalUnion2y ago

> I mean a lot of developed nations did atrocities a century or two ago

I wish those atrocities were just "a centrury ago" but they're in fact pretty recent.

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biorach2y ago

>defending smaller, but freedom loving, countries

You mean America was doing the defending? That's hilarious.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_involvement_in...

And then there's the horror show of American intervention in South East Asia, and then there's the meddle, I mean Middle East.

capableweb2y ago

The US has been proven to meddle in democratic elections in every single continent, except Africa I think, at this point. But meddling in Africa will surely be made public at one point or another.

ethbr02y ago

On the other hand, are we really comparing the leadership of Afghanistan and Iraq to Ukraine and deciding these things are the same?

Last I checked, Ukraine hadn't invaded its neighbors, gassed ethnic minorities, or taken freedom from its entire female population.

The US handled Afghanistan and Iraq poorly, and lied about reasons for going in, but there were actual underlying reasons.

Ukraine is only being invaded because Russia thinks it can.

Hell, Ukraine explicitly gave up its weapons of mass destruction... in exchange for security guarantees... from Russia.

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cultofmetatron2y ago

> But meddling in Africa will surely be made public at one point or another.

The french has most of africa on lockdown in that regard

capableweb2y ago

> defending smaller, but freedom loving, countries

Lol.

> Our grandparents told us stories about the russian army that many found hard to believe. And here we are proven that they were right all along.

tim3332y ago

Standards change though. I mean a lot of developed nations did atrocities a century or two ago but Russia is a bit behind the times.

capableweb2y ago

I'm not sure if you count the US as developed or not, but in case you do, here are some highlights more recently than "a century or two ago":

- Haditha massacre

- Mahmudiyah rape and killings

- Abu Ghraib prison

- Enhanced interrogation techniques

- Sơn Thắng massacre

- Countless of others

All by US officials and/or military members.

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ElectricalUnion2y ago

> I mean a lot of developed nations did atrocities a century or two ago

I wish those atrocities were just "a centrury ago" but they're in fact pretty recent.

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