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0 pointsbusterarm2y ago0 comments

I've been in three different unions and never saw anything like that happen.

Mostly I saw things like rampant sexual harassment and nepotism at every level. Anyone who so much as squeaked about things being wrong saw management and the union reps team up to screw the person for fucking with the status quo. Heck, at my last job like that, they were cousins/roommates.

Unionized workplaces can be just as toxic as any other workplace.

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autoexec2y ago

> Anyone who so much as squeaked about things being wrong saw management and the union reps team up to screw the person for fucking with the status quo... Unionized workplaces can be just as toxic as any other workplace.

This is true, but unlike any other workplace, if your union is filled with corruption and nepotism you can vote to change your union leadership or even to disband it entirely and replace it with a new union under entirely different leadership, operating under new rules written to specifically address the problems with your old union.

Unions at least give you the option of improving the situation if the vast majority of union workers agree that there's a huge problem.

busterarmOP2y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Hoffa

Face prison and death? No thank you, no job has ever been worth that.

Thinking that you're going to fix deep corruption via democratic process... You realize that this doesn't work in mainstream politics either, right? Only in the movies.

autoexec2y ago

I don't think most worker's unions are filled with Mafia members these days so you probably wouldn't have to worry about prison/death.

As for corruption, a strong democracy is highly effective against it which is why corrupt states try so hard to weaken or eliminate Democracy where they can. Democracy is absolutely a threat to corruption.

The US does seem to have slipped some (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index) and there's no surprise that there have been some very worrying efforts to weaken our democracy recently. Most Americans think our democracy is in danger. This would probably be a good time to fight for a stronger democracy so that we're better able to deal with corruption.

fooster2y ago

Good luck with that.

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0 pointsbusterarm2y ago0 comments

I've been in three different unions and never saw anything like that happen.

Unionized workplaces can be just as toxic as any other workplace.

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autoexec2y ago

Unions at least give you the option of improving the situation if the vast majority of union workers agree that there's a huge problem.

busterarmOP2y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Hoffa

Face prison and death? No thank you, no job has ever been worth that.

Thinking that you're going to fix deep corruption via democratic process... You realize that this doesn't work in mainstream politics either, right? Only in the movies.

autoexec2y ago

I don't think most worker's unions are filled with Mafia members these days so you probably wouldn't have to worry about prison/death.

fooster2y ago

Good luck with that.

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