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0 pointsbheadmaster2y ago0 comments

Sum types are optional. And if you make them obligatory, they become just syntax sugar for nil. What would be the default value of a non-sum reference type, without nil?

Erlang's "address space isolation" is not real address space isolation, only semantic. Erlang "processes" are all still in the same address space, but the language semantics doesn't allow them to interfere with one another.

You can implement bounded goroutine lifetime by using sync.WaitGroup and other constructs for coordinating goroutines. Go just doesn't force you to.

> Go’s creators suffer from extreme NIH syndrome. Just look at Plan 9.

This is just bad faith arguing. Plan 9 was revolutionary in many ways, and brushing it off as just NIH makes me think you don't understand or recognize its achievements.

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dontlaugh2y ago

An Optional defaulting to None when created can still fail to compile if you don't check whether it's None when you use it. Same with a Result defaulting to an Error.

The problem with nil for any pointer or interface is that you can compile code dereferencing it without first checking if it's nil.

bheadmasterOP2y ago

> The problem with nil for any pointer or interface is that you can compile code dereferencing it without first checking if it's nil.

Yes, Go doesn't stop you from making mistakes. I think we've already rehashed that a couple of times...

dontlaugh2y ago

It does stop me from trying to treat a float as an int. It could have trivially also stopped me from many other mistakes.

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0 pointsbheadmaster2y ago0 comments

Sum types are optional. And if you make them obligatory, they become just syntax sugar for nil. What would be the default value of a non-sum reference type, without nil?

You can implement bounded goroutine lifetime by using sync.WaitGroup and other constructs for coordinating goroutines. Go just doesn't force you to.

> Go’s creators suffer from extreme NIH syndrome. Just look at Plan 9.

This is just bad faith arguing. Plan 9 was revolutionary in many ways, and brushing it off as just NIH makes me think you don't understand or recognize its achievements.

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dontlaugh2y ago

An Optional defaulting to None when created can still fail to compile if you don't check whether it's None when you use it. Same with a Result defaulting to an Error.

The problem with nil for any pointer or interface is that you can compile code dereferencing it without first checking if it's nil.

bheadmasterOP2y ago

> The problem with nil for any pointer or interface is that you can compile code dereferencing it without first checking if it's nil.

Yes, Go doesn't stop you from making mistakes. I think we've already rehashed that a couple of times...

dontlaugh2y ago

It does stop me from trying to treat a float as an int. It could have trivially also stopped me from many other mistakes.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse