Ahhh, do you know what's funny is after I wrote that comment I went to the bathroom and while peeing I basically had the intuition they were 2 halves of the same thing, but I couldn't even articulate it. I was going to come back and try to ask again and I saw this comment. Thanks!
All this stuff I've tried to learn a few times and it's just so open ended, my mind is very more technically oriented and vague hand-waving statements on investopedia drives me crazy. Other people seem to understand it so easily but after the multiple attempts that I have made, I just have given up.