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0 pointsredundantly2y ago0 comments

> I don't think people are cattle and I think that is a deliberate attempt to misrepresent my position.

I'm not attempting to misrepresent you, that's just how you're coming across. You're effectively saying that people are either too lazy or not competent enough to use services that aren't packaged up and served directly to them. Hence the analogy.

> something like Reddit will always exist, regardless of the centralized corporate ownership.

Maybe, but that's not the point. You're claiming that decentralised services won't see wide spread adoption because it doesn't conform to how things work on Reddit. My point is it's narrow minded to have that mindset.

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nullityrofl2y ago

> You're claiming that decentralised services won't see wide spread adoption because it doesn't conform to how things work on Reddit.

That is explicitly not what I said. What I said was:

> What I think is that people have become accustomed to having a wide array of information on a wide array of topics easily indexed and accessible. What I think is that people value that accessibility of information.

A replacement doesn't have to work how Reddit works. It just has to provide some of the same value.

redundantlyOP2y ago

> That is explicitly not what I said

The following are your words, not mine, although the emphasis is:

> > Federated services will never become mainstream. This is just the reality that people need to come to accept. I find them heavily talked about in circles with my colleagues and in my profession but the attraction of decentralized services just isn't there for the vast majority of people.

> > I'd take a wager that we'll see Digg 3.0/Reddit 2.0 before we'll see widespread adoption of the Fediverse.

nullityrofl2y ago

Those two points are not contrary. The quote you pasted does not dispute my point at all. Your emphasis is my point that the fact that the service is decentralized does not allow it to make up for the fact that it does not meet the needs of the users.

It does for some people -- some people value the fact that it's decentralized over other needs -- but my point is the vast majority of people don't care as long as the information they need is there and accessible. The fact that it's decentralized is, in itself, not enough.

EDIT: And to be clear: I think the fact that it's decentralized doesn't preclude it from having those other properties that users value just that the developers of Fediverse applications don't seem to realize that they need to do something more than make it decentralized. That's the entire essence of my post.

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0 pointsredundantly2y ago0 comments

> I don't think people are cattle and I think that is a deliberate attempt to misrepresent my position.

> something like Reddit will always exist, regardless of the centralized corporate ownership.

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nullityrofl2y ago

> You're claiming that decentralised services won't see wide spread adoption because it doesn't conform to how things work on Reddit.

That is explicitly not what I said. What I said was:

A replacement doesn't have to work how Reddit works. It just has to provide some of the same value.

redundantlyOP2y ago

> That is explicitly not what I said

The following are your words, not mine, although the emphasis is:

> > I'd take a wager that we'll see Digg 3.0/Reddit 2.0 before we'll see widespread adoption of the Fediverse.

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