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0 pointsFireBeyond2y ago0 comments

> Macs ship with SIP enabled and it's easy to disable, I don't know what the (comparable) issue is there?

I generally use a Mac too, connected to Linux systems, but from the last time I disabled Secure Boot on a PC, the process was press F2 for Setup, go to the System tab in the BIOS, and uncheck Secure Boot, Save.

It's not particularly harder than a Mac: Restart in Recovery Mode, Launch a terminal, `csrutil disable`, Reboot.

> though for requiring it I suppose

Just like Mac "requires" it? I guess I just don't see how this is a "Windows sucks compared to Mac, let alone Linux" thing.

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OJFord2y ago

I was trying to turn it on, not off, because it was required for Windows 11 upgrade. That involves going into the BIOS, being perplexed by key generation options and obscure acronyms, trying my best, ending up with an unbootable computer, and having to remove CMOS battery and short a couple of jumper pins to reset the BIOS (battery pull alone was insufficient).

A non-technical user could disable SIP, though they'd never need to; good luck to them upgrading to Windows 11.

Newly requiring it on upgrade when it's hard to do and hardware may be incompatible anyway isn't great IMO. It's not really protecting anyone from anything, because it just leaves them unprotected in exactly the same way on the older OS. As long as they don't brick it trying.

xen2xen12y ago

If you needed key generation to install Windows 11 you did it wrong? I know you do for new Linux kernels and things, but why for Windows 11?

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