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0 pointsjitix2y ago0 comments

You’re both right and wrong. Checked exceptions slow down development, make code ugly and in my theoretical opinion are an anti-pattern that should never be used.

However in small to mid sized enterprise software companies with average developer talent it’s important to keep boundaries (and blame) clear.

In the scenario in question, the CTO will blame OP and make them work the weekend to diagnose/fix it, so wrapping the other exception and throwing their own SomeModuleException will cover their ass.

Java is popular for all the wrong reasons. Believe it or not there are hundreds of such companies in the US alone heavily using Java in this manner and then there is the whole offshore development segment.

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rogerkeays2y ago

I put Java's popularity down to good support for Corporate-Oriented Programming ;)

slt20212y ago

Coproporate-Oriented would be a better description

adamwk2y ago

But even with unchecked exceptions, the exception value or description will still show up in the logs. I don’t understand how checked exceptions save you from a tyrannical CTO

jitixOP2y ago

Good point, but in my experience siloed teams (often if different continents) usually don’t standardize on error messages and codes, and a vague message like “Invalid name” doesn’t indicate which layer the message is coming from.

From operations’ point of view the bug will be pinned on the owner of the service that is returning the JSON to the client/app and it’s up to them to trace it down the layers. A hierarchy of wrapped exceptions helps with that. Kind of like saying “I can’t do it because XYZ didn’t do what they were supposed to do”. So low key corporate blame game in code.

I know that the usual HN crowd doesn’t work at/know about companies that follow this, but this pattern is way more prevalent in the broader “IT” industry esp among offshore centres.

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