DeepSID: Online Commodore 64 SID Player (opens in new tab)

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52 pointsAudiophilip2y ago20 comments

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It's incredible how that chip still holds up well today, and people are still using it to create music. There was a particular tune I wanted to link to, but can't find it unfortunately.

_sys491522y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernkraft_400

"Kernkraft 400" (English: Nuclear Energy 400) is a song performed by German techno artist Zombie Nation and the first single from their 1999 debut album Leichenschmaus. A remix of the SID track "Star Dust" by David Whittaker, from his 1984 Commodore 64 game Lazy Jones, it peaked at number 22 in Germany in February 2000 while becoming a top-10 hit in the Netherlands and Belgium's Flanders region a few months later

---waiting to create sid tracks, stable diffusion style, to sample cut and layer in the future.

a1r2y ago

Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross used a SID (in an Elektron Sidstation) on the soundtrack for THE SOCIAL NETWORK, https://reverbmachine.com/blog/trent-reznor-social-network-s...

Sosh1012y ago

Here's one I was looking for, an electronic album available on c64 cartridge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGWsPEC341Y A riff on skype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnIiui46ggY

Some more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slf7YjsXidM

Still can't find the one I wanted to share....

pan692y ago

Last Ninja 2 (1988) for me is still my favorite SID music ever made. I was blown away by it then and I am blown away by it now.

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/$LaLa%20Tape%20-%20Last%...

(sounds like this player is doing funky things from time to time)

andraaspar2y ago

To me, it's Steve Rowlands. No composer ever got anything close to Retrograde or Creatures 2:

So: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/R/Rowlands_Ste...

Many: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/R/Rowlands_Ste...

Different: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/R/Rowlands_Ste...

Styles: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/R/Rowlands_Ste...

The SID can play on 3 channels simultaneously. How many can you hear on the tracks above? Now that's genius. Not to mention the great songwriting.

OnlyMortal2y ago

“Multiplexing” the three channels by playing short and different sounds on an individual channel, makes it seem there are more tracks.

Not sure if it’s been used here but you can squeeze another two channels in by playing samples.

Using the volume level you can play 4-bit samples on the NMI.

There’s some good source code examples on GitHub.

wiz21c2y ago

One of my "back of the head" idea is to build a nerual net that could translate the SID commands into the sound it produces. Anybody know what would be the most suited NN architecture to do that (I've looked around a bit, but didn't find anything "ready-to-use")....

Sosh1012y ago

That sounds challenging - I'd love to see how you get on. I had a kind of related idea - train a model on a particular synth, then when passed a sample with a synth sound in it, it would try to suggest the patch settings that would most closely emulate the sound.

tinus_hn2y ago

These players work in a perhaps surprising way, they emulate the complete machine to run the part of the original code that programs an emulated SID chip. So it’s not like MIDI or something where the storage is a stream of commands in sequence.

actionfromafar2y ago

You could finally create a SID spare part which sounds just like the original. (In fact, which sounds exactly like one individual chip!)

ilyt2y ago

If you train it on entire library and use real SID, maybe ? There is plenty of quirks in the chip that not all songs use

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milchek2y ago

Damn, this is awesome work. Grew up with the C64, always wondered as a kid what these 'scene' intros to tapes my dad bought at swap meets were, of course later learning about the talented individuals in the demo scene.

Nice to have this part of the culture and history preserved and presented in such a way.

Barbarian will always be my all time favourite C64 soundtrack: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/$Best%20of%20Games%20198...

AdmiralAsshat2y ago

I'll always remember a certain chiptune cover of the Axel F theme, which for my money sounds way better than the actual song:

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/0-9/20CC/van_S...

predictsoft2y ago

Great on Android mobile as there are no decent SID apps for that platform.

Grom_PE2y ago

Droidsound-E plays SID format nicely for me, among others.

Braini2y ago

I found SidAMP to be rather good actually, nice app

AudiophilipOP2y ago

In the 90s, early 2000's, there was a resurgence of the SID music scene that may not be widely acknowledged. During this time, new SID editors/players and techniques were developed, introducing a fresh sonic landscape with previously unheard sounds coming from the SID chip. Here's a few of my favorites from this era:

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/C/Carlos_Breez...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/F/Fanta/Bombs_...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/J/Jeff/Svend_D...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/M/Mitch_and_Da...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/P/Peet/Harvy.s...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/T/Taki/Reynbow...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/F/Fanta/Challe...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/Dr_Voice/Sit...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/J/Jeff/Rectumo...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/M/Mitch_and_Da...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Blues_Muz/Sp...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/DRAX/KickAss...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/T/Tjelta_Geir/...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/G/Greg/Magyar_...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/Dr_Voice/Yea...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Behdad_Arman...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/DaFunk/Art_o...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/T/The_Syndrom/...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Bakewell_Dwa...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/M/Merken_Vince...

I had to restrain myself from posting more, but I believe these examples will give you an idea. The C64 demoscene is still very much alive, by the way, with great SID tunes being released even today.

snvzz2y ago

Interface seems convenient.

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Sosh1012y ago

It's incredible how that chip still holds up well today, and people are still using it to create music. There was a particular tune I wanted to link to, but can't find it unfortunately.

_sys491522y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernkraft_400

---waiting to create sid tracks, stable diffusion style, to sample cut and layer in the future.

a1r2y ago

Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross used a SID (in an Elektron Sidstation) on the soundtrack for THE SOCIAL NETWORK, https://reverbmachine.com/blog/trent-reznor-social-network-s...

Sosh1012y ago

Here's one I was looking for, an electronic album available on c64 cartridge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGWsPEC341Y A riff on skype: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnIiui46ggY

Some more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slf7YjsXidM

Still can't find the one I wanted to share....

pan692y ago

Last Ninja 2 (1988) for me is still my favorite SID music ever made. I was blown away by it then and I am blown away by it now.

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/$LaLa%20Tape%20-%20Last%...

(sounds like this player is doing funky things from time to time)

andraaspar2y ago

To me, it's Steve Rowlands. No composer ever got anything close to Retrograde or Creatures 2:

So: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/R/Rowlands_Ste...

Many: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/R/Rowlands_Ste...

Different: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/R/Rowlands_Ste...

Styles: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/R/Rowlands_Ste...

The SID can play on 3 channels simultaneously. How many can you hear on the tracks above? Now that's genius. Not to mention the great songwriting.

OnlyMortal2y ago

“Multiplexing” the three channels by playing short and different sounds on an individual channel, makes it seem there are more tracks.

Not sure if it’s been used here but you can squeeze another two channels in by playing samples.

Using the volume level you can play 4-bit samples on the NMI.

There’s some good source code examples on GitHub.

wiz21c2y ago

Sosh1012y ago

tinus_hn2y ago

actionfromafar2y ago

You could finally create a SID spare part which sounds just like the original. (In fact, which sounds exactly like one individual chip!)

ilyt2y ago

If you train it on entire library and use real SID, maybe ? There is plenty of quirks in the chip that not all songs use

1 more reply

milchek2y ago

Nice to have this part of the culture and history preserved and presented in such a way.

Barbarian will always be my all time favourite C64 soundtrack: https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/$Best%20of%20Games%20198...

AdmiralAsshat2y ago

I'll always remember a certain chiptune cover of the Axel F theme, which for my money sounds way better than the actual song:

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/0-9/20CC/van_S...

predictsoft2y ago

Great on Android mobile as there are no decent SID apps for that platform.

Grom_PE2y ago

Droidsound-E plays SID format nicely for me, among others.

Braini2y ago

I found SidAMP to be rather good actually, nice app

AudiophilipOP2y ago

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/C/Carlos_Breez...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/F/Fanta/Bombs_...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/J/Jeff/Svend_D...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/M/Mitch_and_Da...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/P/Peet/Harvy.s...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/T/Taki/Reynbow...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/F/Fanta/Challe...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/Dr_Voice/Sit...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/J/Jeff/Rectumo...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/M/Mitch_and_Da...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Blues_Muz/Sp...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/DRAX/KickAss...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/T/Tjelta_Geir/...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/G/Greg/Magyar_...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/Dr_Voice/Yea...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Behdad_Arman...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/D/DaFunk/Art_o...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/T/The_Syndrom/...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/B/Bakewell_Dwa...

https://deepsid.chordian.net/?file=/MUSICIANS/M/Merken_Vince...

I had to restrain myself from posting more, but I believe these examples will give you an idea. The C64 demoscene is still very much alive, by the way, with great SID tunes being released even today.

snvzz2y ago

Interface seems convenient.

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