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0 pointsbatista14y ago0 comments

Really? What do you know about the cost of infrastructure and its capacity?

Thank you.

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I know enough to conclude that it hasn't gotten more expensive to ship bits in the past ten years. Yet, here we are in the US, shifting from unlimited data plans to rate-limited, capped plans, and no one seems to have come up with a convincing explanation as to why that's occurring.

veyron14y ago

It's simple:

- unlimited data plans were doled out when network operators knew full well that people couldn't actually use enough data to cause a crisis.

- Data usage spiked because people found new uses for phones which demanded more and more data (e.g. streaming shows)

- Operators found themselves underdeveloped with no prospect of demand tapering off

- At these levels, it maximizes the operator's profits to push people into rate-limited plans.

ugh14y ago

Of course it has become more expensive to ship bits. More people are finding more uses. Are you deluded or what? How disconnected from reality and how entitled can one be?

beedogs14y ago

Really? Entitlement? The rest of the developed world has faster, cheaper, and in many cases unlimited data, and you're calling me "entitled" for being incredulous about claims of the "ever-increasing cost of data transfer".

But, thanks for the insults. This place is really friendly!

batistaOP14y ago

I know enough to conclude that it hasn't gotten more expensive to ship bits in the past ten years.

Are you kidding me?

We went from simple networks to 3G to 4G --which requires new infrastructure deployments every few years.

We went from the mobile web being almost nothing to hundreds of millions of very capable mobile web devices in the past ten years (iPhone/iPad/Android...).

Network usage increased exponentially with the newer, more useful devices. People were buying "unlimited" plans and used 100-300MB per month, not they can easily go to over several GBs.

It's like you have a "unlimited free refills" soda fountain. When everyone has 2-3 drinks it's ok. When everyone starts having 10-20 sodas, well, you start putting some limit to those "unlimited refills".

batistaOP14y ago

Downvoted? Really? Are these statements of fact and a simple analogy too controversial?

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beedogs14y ago

veyron14y ago

It's simple:

- unlimited data plans were doled out when network operators knew full well that people couldn't actually use enough data to cause a crisis.

- Data usage spiked because people found new uses for phones which demanded more and more data (e.g. streaming shows)

- Operators found themselves underdeveloped with no prospect of demand tapering off

- At these levels, it maximizes the operator's profits to push people into rate-limited plans.

ugh14y ago

Of course it has become more expensive to ship bits. More people are finding more uses. Are you deluded or what? How disconnected from reality and how entitled can one be?

beedogs14y ago

But, thanks for the insults. This place is really friendly!

batistaOP14y ago

I know enough to conclude that it hasn't gotten more expensive to ship bits in the past ten years.

Are you kidding me?

We went from simple networks to 3G to 4G --which requires new infrastructure deployments every few years.

We went from the mobile web being almost nothing to hundreds of millions of very capable mobile web devices in the past ten years (iPhone/iPad/Android...).

Network usage increased exponentially with the newer, more useful devices. People were buying "unlimited" plans and used 100-300MB per month, not they can easily go to over several GBs.

batistaOP14y ago

Downvoted? Really? Are these statements of fact and a simple analogy too controversial?

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