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0 pointsAlupis2y ago0 comments

> In Amsterdam when you go to a music festival you will not see a lot of pod heads

I could be wrong, but I don't believe marijuana is as-legal in Amsterdam as it is in California for example. In CA, there's very few enforced restrictions of where you can get it and where you can use it.

> Look at Portugals drug history. Legalization saved that country!

It doesn't appear so[1]. It appears they are struggling with the same issues - dramatic rise in drug use.

It's not really effective to just simply legalize all drugs. I agree with most, we shouldn't throw people in prison for drug use. No, instead we need to throw them into mandatory rehabilitation programs.

The goals of a decriminalization program shouldn't be to increase average citizen's drug use. But that's what happens without some sort of rehab/treatment program.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/07/07/portugal-dru...

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TylerE2y ago

Disagree. Much more societal harm comes from the supply side (cartels, street gangs) than users, and much of the harm for/from users goes away if prices adjust to what they actually cost to produce (a tiny fraction of street price), and if the products are lab tested for potency and purity.

vuln2y ago

> if prices adjust to what they actually cost to produce (a tiny fraction of street price)

Nothing. Absolutely nothing is priced at “actual costs to produce.” Nothing. I wish it were the case though maybe one day.

TylerE2y ago

Sorry, I was imprecise in my wording... obviously there has to be profit, but not the 10,000%+ margins hard drugs "enjoy".

AlupisOP2y ago

This pitched scenario has played out in exactly zero markets around the world, including all of the legal-marijuana states right here in the US.

TylerE2y ago

Cartels aren't generally dealing in marijuana, it's small potatoes.

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Ajay-p2y ago

I am not a consumer of marijuana but in my observations of habitual users is nowhere near the same as someone addicted to heroin, and the severe physical and mental impact it has on their bodies. One could say alcohol and nicotine have such harmful effects, but not as dramatic and sudden as harder narcotics.

Demotooodo2y ago

You get it in a lot of shops without any issues.

And that's the way for more than 10 years.

Even as a tourist

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0 pointsAlupis2y ago0 comments

> In Amsterdam when you go to a music festival you will not see a lot of pod heads

> Look at Portugals drug history. Legalization saved that country!

It doesn't appear so[1]. It appears they are struggling with the same issues - dramatic rise in drug use.

The goals of a decriminalization program shouldn't be to increase average citizen's drug use. But that's what happens without some sort of rehab/treatment program.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/07/07/portugal-dru...

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TylerE2y ago

vuln2y ago

> if prices adjust to what they actually cost to produce (a tiny fraction of street price)

Nothing. Absolutely nothing is priced at “actual costs to produce.” Nothing. I wish it were the case though maybe one day.

TylerE2y ago

Sorry, I was imprecise in my wording... obviously there has to be profit, but not the 10,000%+ margins hard drugs "enjoy".

AlupisOP2y ago

This pitched scenario has played out in exactly zero markets around the world, including all of the legal-marijuana states right here in the US.

TylerE2y ago

Cartels aren't generally dealing in marijuana, it's small potatoes.

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Ajay-p2y ago

Demotooodo2y ago

You get it in a lot of shops without any issues.

And that's the way for more than 10 years.

Even as a tourist

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