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0 pointslight_hue_12y ago0 comments

It's not biased, it's a fact. I see it all the time as PC/AC/reviwer/etc.

There is deluge of terrible papers from China that are just a mess, below any imaginable standard. Ones that labs in the EU/US/Russia/Japan/etc. don't put out. Yes, everyone has to publish, and there are bad papers out there, but the volume and low quality from China is unmatched.

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PicassoCTs2y ago

face culture and science dont mesh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Face_(sociological_concept)

throwaway20372y ago

That is crazy talk. I don't believe it. Korea and Japan both have crazy levels of "face" in their culture (and Taiwan to somewhat less extent), and they all produce huge amounts of high quality scientific papers.

d0gbread2y ago

Seems like a wild generalization.

hotdogscout2y ago

It is not wild, if you can't disagree with the majority I'm skeptical of your ability to discover truths.

I anecdotally feel religious or leftist western circles very much fall under the definition of face culture though.

sheepscreek2y ago

> It's not biased, it's a fact. I see it all the time as PC/AC/reviwer/etc.

Let's agree this is anecdotal at best, and move on. Facts need data to back them up. There's no data or links to research in this post.

macintux2y ago

Data linked from another comment.

https://sci-hub.ru/10.1007/s11948-017-9939-6

ImPostingOnHN2y ago

I'm confident that poster's experiences are based on the data they saw

if you're doubting the veracity of the poster's claims, just say so directly

OO000oo2y ago

Unmatched doesn’t make it qualitatively unique. It’s a problem everywhere.

cinntaile2y ago

If the problem is much bigger from certain countries then I would say that qualifies as qualitatively unique.

dylan6042y ago

Isn't the population of China much bigger as well? Laws of percentages and what not can go along way. Has anyone displayed a percentage of rushed/inaccurate studies between countries to see if the lines normalize?

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tough2y ago

If those certain countries have a very big population I'd say is more of a quantitative issue. If china had 10 scientists they couldn't pump as many papers, fake or good or not as if they're 1million scientists

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