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0 pointscsdvrx2y ago0 comments

> It's honestly insane. CarPlay does everything I want and the best part is it just works. A large part of that "it just works" is the fact that it's all based directly on my phone.

The insanity goes both ways: I refuse to use a cellphone, so I will not buy a car that has Android or Apple stuff.

Hopefully I'll have other options than this $130k Cadillac, but it's good to know some automakers cater to my preferences too.

> That restaurant we just decided to go to. Already in navigation. AND! the maps are all current with road closures/traffic issues

Funny enough, getting a GPS without auto updates and offering a full offline experience is now a premium, but I'm happy to pay for the exact opposite of what you want: a GPS without auto navigation / user tracking / not being happy to work with old maps if I decide it should (customer is king, except for apps!)

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scottyg662y ago

> The insanity goes both ways: I refuse to use a cellphone, so I will not buy a car that has Android or Apple stuff.

I think you are firmly in the minority here and probably not the market they are building for. I bet much less than 1% of people who will buy a car in the next year refuse to use a cell phone.

lotsofpulp2y ago

> The insanity goes both ways: I refuse to use a cellphone, so I will not buy a car that has Android or Apple stuff.

FYI, a car that supports CarPlay/Android Auto and a car that does not is indistinguishable to the person who does not connect a phone to the car. It is just an interface that allows your phone to use the touchscreen, but if you do not connect a phone, it continues to work.

SkyPuncher2y ago

> I refuse to use a cellphone, so I will not buy a car that has Android or Apple stuff.

Then, you're also not buying an EV it sounds like... All of these fancy headunits require a cell phone modem....

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CarPlay is entirely optional. Your headunit will have all of the basic still built in.

csdvrxOP2y ago

> Then, you're also not buying an EV it sounds like

Then I won't?

Instead, for a fraction of the price I may get a nice second hand muscle car, with no feature I don't want to be present. It may even have an old school CD player, I like retro :)

CamperBob22y ago

That's great, but this thread is about something else entirely. No one at GM (or anywhere else, apparently) can make recurring revenue from you, so your needs and interests will be even less relevant to automakers than those of the rest of us.

Sucks, but that's how things are shaping up. Too late for the proverbial pebbles to vote.

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gopher20002y ago

> I refuse to use a cellphone

Like at all? That immediately puts you in a pretty niche category.

csdvrxOP2y ago

> Like at all? That immediately puts you in a pretty niche category.

Like at all I guess? Or at least least 99% of the time?

I'm not opposed to the idea owning a cellphone: I can have one, if it's without a cellphone plan and spends most of the time powered off inside a drawer.

Then, as long as I'm not forced to interact with it say more than once a month, it's fine.

I guess this technically doesn't qualify for the "not at all" since I sometimes use a cellphone to run magisk to root my android ebook

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0 pointscsdvrx2y ago0 comments

> It's honestly insane. CarPlay does everything I want and the best part is it just works. A large part of that "it just works" is the fact that it's all based directly on my phone.

The insanity goes both ways: I refuse to use a cellphone, so I will not buy a car that has Android or Apple stuff.

Hopefully I'll have other options than this $130k Cadillac, but it's good to know some automakers cater to my preferences too.

> That restaurant we just decided to go to. Already in navigation. AND! the maps are all current with road closures/traffic issues

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scottyg662y ago

> The insanity goes both ways: I refuse to use a cellphone, so I will not buy a car that has Android or Apple stuff.

I think you are firmly in the minority here and probably not the market they are building for. I bet much less than 1% of people who will buy a car in the next year refuse to use a cell phone.

lotsofpulp2y ago

> The insanity goes both ways: I refuse to use a cellphone, so I will not buy a car that has Android or Apple stuff.

SkyPuncher2y ago

> I refuse to use a cellphone, so I will not buy a car that has Android or Apple stuff.

Then, you're also not buying an EV it sounds like... All of these fancy headunits require a cell phone modem....

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CarPlay is entirely optional. Your headunit will have all of the basic still built in.

csdvrxOP2y ago

> Then, you're also not buying an EV it sounds like

Then I won't?

Instead, for a fraction of the price I may get a nice second hand muscle car, with no feature I don't want to be present. It may even have an old school CD player, I like retro :)

CamperBob22y ago

Sucks, but that's how things are shaping up. Too late for the proverbial pebbles to vote.

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gopher20002y ago

> I refuse to use a cellphone

Like at all? That immediately puts you in a pretty niche category.

csdvrxOP2y ago

> Like at all? That immediately puts you in a pretty niche category.

Like at all I guess? Or at least least 99% of the time?

I'm not opposed to the idea owning a cellphone: I can have one, if it's without a cellphone plan and spends most of the time powered off inside a drawer.

Then, as long as I'm not forced to interact with it say more than once a month, it's fine.

I guess this technically doesn't qualify for the "not at all" since I sometimes use a cellphone to run magisk to root my android ebook

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