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0 pointsTijdreiziger2y ago0 comments

> Mac is a mixed bag of excellent Rosetta and breaking apps for no reason.

They will probably retire Rosetta2 in a few years, like they did with Rosetta.

Apple usually seems to care about getting the bulk of applications to transition over, and the rest is just collateral damage/the devs should’ve just updated their software.

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duskwuff2y ago

> They will probably retire Rosetta2 in a few years, like they did with Rosetta.

Counterpoint: The PPC-to-Intel version of Rosetta was licensed technology (QuickTransit); Apple was undoubtedly paying for it, possibly even per user, so there were financial reasons for them to get users off of it ASAP.

Rosetta 2 was developed in-house by Apple, so there isn't the same hard timeline to get users to stop using it. I wouldn't expect it to survive long beyond support for running the OS on x86, though.

BirAdam2y ago

It could last longer if gaming with their game porting toolkit gets big enough to drive more Mac sales. Money talks.

o1y322y ago

That's a long shot. I wouldn't hold my breath for seeing the day when gaming on Mac is a real choice for big games.

TijdreizigerOP2y ago

Yes, just like they had valid technical reasons to kill 32-bit iOS apps. The point is that they don’t go above and beyond like Microsoft (although of course even MS has deprecated e.g. 16-bit apps).

tinus_hn2y ago

On the bright side, the end result is that on Mac there are only apps that have been updated this decade.

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kalleboo2y ago

> I wouldn't expect it to survive long beyond support for running the OS on x86

Even if the support for running x86 Mac GUI apps along with x86 macOS, they might still keep the technology around for docker, linux VMs, etc.

howinteresting2y ago

And this is why Apple will never be a serious gaming platform for non-exploitative/GaaS games. Personally I think it's good that I can run games that were last updated in the early 2010s on my computer.

failuser2y ago

Definitely. All Intel Mac apps will be abandoned. Even tiny apps like Spectacle will cause pain.

Cthulhu_2y ago

I've found Rectangle to be a good substitute / in-place replacement.

failuser2y ago

Thanks, it actually makes sense to switch. And Spectacle is even open source, so the amount of pain is minimal.

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duskwuff2y ago

> They will probably retire Rosetta2 in a few years, like they did with Rosetta.

Rosetta 2 was developed in-house by Apple, so there isn't the same hard timeline to get users to stop using it. I wouldn't expect it to survive long beyond support for running the OS on x86, though.

BirAdam2y ago

It could last longer if gaming with their game porting toolkit gets big enough to drive more Mac sales. Money talks.

o1y322y ago

That's a long shot. I wouldn't hold my breath for seeing the day when gaming on Mac is a real choice for big games.

TijdreizigerOP2y ago

tinus_hn2y ago

On the bright side, the end result is that on Mac there are only apps that have been updated this decade.

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kalleboo2y ago

> I wouldn't expect it to survive long beyond support for running the OS on x86

Even if the support for running x86 Mac GUI apps along with x86 macOS, they might still keep the technology around for docker, linux VMs, etc.

howinteresting2y ago

failuser2y ago

Definitely. All Intel Mac apps will be abandoned. Even tiny apps like Spectacle will cause pain.

Cthulhu_2y ago

I've found Rectangle to be a good substitute / in-place replacement.

failuser2y ago

Thanks, it actually makes sense to switch. And Spectacle is even open source, so the amount of pain is minimal.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse