So when I use a Windows machine (ten years or so later, still have to use one for work), I just fire up Firefox, just like I'd do even if there were a current version of Safari for Windows. I have no ideological dog in this fight, so I'll go the easiest route that doesn't involve Edge or Chrome.
EDIT: oops, there's an HN bug. I went to update the original comment, and it posts this duplicate (with my updates) instead. I'll delete the original/dupe here in a minute or two.
It's annoying that I need Apple hardware to make sure my web applications work in Safari when I basically never need to specifically test Chrome or Firefox.
YMMV. If you hate Google and love Apple - it sounds like a good idea to kill innovation at Google's expense.
There's nothing stopping the web from being frozen. Safari could do it if it wanted to. All that would happen is that Safari would lose market share.
(Media stack? Yes, I am salty about Opus Ogg support.)
Of course, it's not Safari. But it could be useful for testing CSS quirks or similar without requiring a Mac. And if Apple wanted to ship Safari for Windows... well it would still be a tremendous amount of work. And I don't see what Apple would get out of it. But at least porting WebKit is already half done.
Which is still a decent chunk, but if it didn't have the same preinstalled advantage or OS/hardware optimizations it enjoys on MacOS it's hard to imagine that number would change much.
Though not Windows, it shows marrying up Chrome/Firefox extensions on WebKit engine, with iCloud sync.
And when I’ve personally tried using it on my various Macs over the years, I’ve always encountered bugs and glitches on websites that are seemingly not there with other browsers.
To be honest I’m pretty unhappy with a few of Apple’s “core” apps. Music is another dumpster fire...
Does the most profitable company in the world really need to gate-keep its browser like it does for developing on its phones?
https://medium.com/homullus/8-browsers-in-a-tiny-car-energy-...
I'm also a weirdo in that I actually fancy macOS smoother "typeface-first" font hinting (or rather lack thereof) even if they become a bit "blurrier".
Edit: Not saying it's working right for everyone, only that it's not universally broken. That is, it's capable of working, even if it's not OK on your system.
Apple will produce another Windows version of Safari if, and probably only if, they come to believe it’s an important and necessary developer target. For now, they probably rightly believe otherwise… whether that’s because developers are using and/or testing in Safari on Apple devices already, or because their efforts targeting Blink are sufficiently compatible.
If people cared about any of the above they would use edge not chrome and firefox, people care about stability and compaitibility.
We only just saw the end of IE6, don’t bring it back.
Safari is deliberately stunted, behind and incompatible.
Simple, top of the head example, where is AV1 video playback?
> I hear you saying: Safari is the modern ie6, but this is changing: For some reason Apple is investing on Safari again, they hired a bunch of people and things that were glaringly missing are now being shipped.
Chrome is the modern ie6 period.
Intel, AMD and NVIDIA have figured it out 3 years ago, so can Apple.