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0 pointsberniedurfee2y ago0 comments

That’s my understanding as well; that the Industrial Revolution in the US was very much based on IP from outside the US.

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BeFlatXIII2y ago

Enforcing IP laws is merely pulling the ladder up after the US had its success.

fennecfoxy2y ago

What, should we let each country "have their turn" at morals, ethics and ideas from a hundred years ago or more?

I mean if that's the case the so be it, but they should expect protectionism in response - US already bans export of certain technologies to China, if we embrace the differences in views on IP theft, how are Western countries meant to protect the IP they invested money in nowadays?

Or do we just give it away for free? Who pays to develop this free IP then?

iancmceachern2y ago

But was it state sponsored? My understanding is that it was mostly robber barrons doing their thing, which isn't really "The US", its more "People in the US".

mindslight2y ago

This may be the furthest I've seen the false dichotomy between government and corporations stretched.

iancmceachern2y ago

I'll admit the failures of the US government just much as anyone, am and will always be a tough critic..

But let's not forget the greater context here.

We are talking about a communist country with very top down, state architected enterprises and actions with the USA, which is certainly not those things.

The US isn't perfect, by any means, I'm not trying to say that. Context, that's what I'm trying to have us remember here.

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the-dude2y ago

Pretty much : https://www.history.com/news/industrial-revolution-spies-eur...

iancmceachern2y ago

Slavery was once legal here as well.

Just because it was once legal when the world was far different doesn't justify actions today.

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BeFlatXIII2y ago

Enforcing IP laws is merely pulling the ladder up after the US had its success.

fennecfoxy2y ago

What, should we let each country "have their turn" at morals, ethics and ideas from a hundred years ago or more?

Or do we just give it away for free? Who pays to develop this free IP then?

iancmceachern2y ago

But was it state sponsored? My understanding is that it was mostly robber barrons doing their thing, which isn't really "The US", its more "People in the US".

mindslight2y ago

This may be the furthest I've seen the false dichotomy between government and corporations stretched.

iancmceachern2y ago

I'll admit the failures of the US government just much as anyone, am and will always be a tough critic..

But let's not forget the greater context here.

We are talking about a communist country with very top down, state architected enterprises and actions with the USA, which is certainly not those things.

The US isn't perfect, by any means, I'm not trying to say that. Context, that's what I'm trying to have us remember here.

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the-dude2y ago

Pretty much : https://www.history.com/news/industrial-revolution-spies-eur...

iancmceachern2y ago

Slavery was once legal here as well.

Just because it was once legal when the world was far different doesn't justify actions today.

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