The economy has essentially been ruined by looting. People finding ways to strip out assets from companies.
Variations on this include private equity racking up debt and bankrupting companies. Executives doing stock buybacks to boost their options while hollowing out the company's resources. Hedge fund management fees. It's everywhere.
PMs loot products by throwing in needless features to game some metric, or cutting features that users want but are "too expensive".
Engineers loot by burning resilience and multi-dimensional reliability to eek out 5% more straight line speed.
Sales folks loot by offering huge discounts to get huge deals signed, etc.
They look like heros, then they move on, leaving the place worse than they found it.
Hedge funds working with consultant buddies (BCG) to take over the board/leadership of a victim company.
The consultants then deliberately destroy the company from the inside while their hedge-fund buddies (naked) short it into literal bankruptcy.
It's a very easy game, it's tax-free (because the short position is technically never closed? or something) and it only very very rarely fails and backfires (GME).
Hard to imagine the delightful people involved leaving money on the table by missing an opportunity to profit from shorting.
Given the above, isn’t the optimal strategy to maximize profit extraction in order to invest in new industries?
The US corporate right evangelised this culture as "freedom", and now it's being eaten from the inside out by it.
Maybe the tech was to far out, or maybe we would have had vastly more advanced industrial robots.
I'm curious to understand why China is to be blamed, exclusively? Correct me if I am misunderstanding your premise.
My understanding, possibly biased by my Britishness, is that Jim Goldsmith was one of the earliest raiders who took over companies and asset-stripped them.
If those people don't own the company, what is the owner doing by allowing this to happen?
If those people _are_ the owners, then there shouldn't be a problem, since it's their own company, and they ought to be allowed to do anything they wish. Including short term reward for long term loss (if it is worth it in their eyes).
So i dont think it's "looting" (implying it's being stolen without knowledge of the owner).
Also viewing a company as just a collection of assets owned by capital can be somewhat limiting. Companies are generally made up of human employees, and many schools of thought treat employees as one of several stakeholders in a company and assign various rights to them and various responsibilities to the company for them.
Looking at it this way, the “owner” of a company can easily be described as looting the company if they are destroying a lot of value in the company for marginal benefit for themselves.
This problem is solved using the court system, and then legislation system. Things which _should_ be unacceptable needs to be made illegal. And over time, this has indeed been the case. Things like environmental regulations etc are the examples.
> various responsibilities to the company for them
i think the employees are reading too much into this responsibility, because the only responsibility the company has for the employees are the legals ones: such as OSHA, timely payment of wages, safety from harassment etc.
Longevity of the job, social responsibilities (such as improving the community etc), are all secondary to the financial success for the shareholders.
I think you're describing the way things are, while dwalling is talking about how things ought to be. There's no law of nature saying that companies can't or shouldn't behave socially responsibly.
Edit: I'm not advocating for socialism, not at all. There's a wide spectrum between pure laissez-faire capitalism and nationalization of all private property.
putting financial success for the shareholders above all is the reason for so many things wrong right now,
I 100% agree with you, but isn’t this how capitalism works?
I do notice similar sentiments to use more frequently on HN lately. Feels like people are actually aware there are problems now but unsure what’s to be done?
Can feel Lenin spinning in his tomb from here.
anyway in this case the term "looting" is meant to do things that will be of benefit to the people to the company that will in the short term maybe benefit the company but in the long term destroy it. The short term benefit often aligns with what benefits the looter, but this alignment is not hard and fast.
only agents acting on behalf of the owners have fiduciary duty. Of course, if you are a majority owner, but there exists minority owners, you cannot screw the minority owners to profit yourself - i guess this is a form of fiduciary duty.
But if you own it outright 100%, then you don't have such a fiduciary duty to yourself.