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0 pointsjppittma2y ago0 comments

No web framework, the standard library is enough. log/slog is in the standard library now, and is compatible with zap, which seems to work with everything.

>IMO Go is high velocity only in the simplest sense, it's very easy to pump out shit tons of code. With a big team of mediocre developers this is even more true. The problems all come later. Big change in requirements? Good luck with that. Had a team try to go crazy functional with Go and now they have immutable data everywhere and allocations are completely destroying the throughput of the Go GC? Good luck fixing that. etc.

I doublt things would go better for teams trying to go full OO in haskell, or full functional in Java.

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jpgvm2y ago

The stdlib really isn't enough unless you want num_teams x session handling implementations etc.

> I doublt things would go better for teams trying to go full OO in haskell, or full functional in Java.

That is the beauty of Java, no one does this.

They don't feel like they need, should or will get approval to.

Go is pretty much the wild west because "the std lib is enough" attitude permeates everything. Build your own datastructures, build your own anything really.

I can understand why many people find that attractive and hate Java as a result, sometimes Java feels more like Lego and less like programming but it does create predictable reliably constructed software that is generally easy to clean up even if it's done a bit poorly.

Which is something I value because I often end up in the code janitor role and/or being air-dropped in to get a project back on schedule or drastically cut down the defects etc.

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