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0 pointstheK2y ago0 comments

> The advantage of IPFS is that it allows resources to remain accessible, e.g. if someone else cares enough to ho...

I think there is a key point here. This exactly is the reason why incentives markets built around IPFS are so relevant. They democratize the act of saying "I care about that data". Nowadays you need to be a poweruser to express this but with the world's content being more and more digital media this isn't the realm of the poweruser any more.

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chriswarbo2y ago

> I think there is a key point here. This exactly is the reason why incentives markets built around IPFS are so relevant.

I fundamentally disagree. If someone wants to make filesharing easier, go ahead (personally I think dragging files into a "Shared" folder, like eDonkey/Kazaa/Limewire/etc. would be easier for non-"powerusers" than minting and securing a crypto wallet and trying to convince others of its value in exchange for storage space, but whatever).

To me, such projects seem about as relevant for IPFS as, say, Geocities is for HTTP.

theKOP2y ago

I'm having difficulty following this train of thought. How is any of this related to consumer level users wanting to keep IPFS data alive?

chriswarbo2y ago

> How is any of this related to consumer level users wanting to keep IPFS data alive?

I'm saying that "consumer level users wanting to keep... data alive" is unrelated to IPFS.

If someone wants to work in that space, they can do so in separate projects (there are already many). Such projects could make use of IPFS; but they could also use HTTP, Bittorrent, GNUNet, Dat/Hyperdrive, Freenet, ED2K, FTP, or whatever seems appropriate (ideally, all of the above and more).

Presumably such projects could encode their text using UTF-8, to 'democratise saying things outside of the Anglosphere'; but that shouldn't de-rail the Unicode consortium into a multi-year crypto pivot.

theKOP2y ago

That's all fine but the fact of the matter is that a lot of web3 content is built on IPFS and not on all those other technologies (partially because IPFS is truly permissionless), so the "just use another tech" argument is quite moot/academic

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vineyardmike2y ago

Incentive markets aren’t “democratization”. Something like BitTorrent where people freely choose to contribute simply to help others is democratic.

An incentive market basically makes it a business.

theKOP2y ago

What's not democratic in having the power to use and operate businesses?

I think this is the ideal way. Instead of limiting "democracy" to the power users you also include consumers this way.

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chriswarbo2y ago

> I think there is a key point here. This exactly is the reason why incentives markets built around IPFS are so relevant.

To me, such projects seem about as relevant for IPFS as, say, Geocities is for HTTP.

theKOP2y ago

I'm having difficulty following this train of thought. How is any of this related to consumer level users wanting to keep IPFS data alive?

chriswarbo2y ago

> How is any of this related to consumer level users wanting to keep IPFS data alive?

I'm saying that "consumer level users wanting to keep... data alive" is unrelated to IPFS.

theKOP2y ago

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vineyardmike2y ago

Incentive markets aren’t “democratization”. Something like BitTorrent where people freely choose to contribute simply to help others is democratic.

An incentive market basically makes it a business.

theKOP2y ago

What's not democratic in having the power to use and operate businesses?

I think this is the ideal way. Instead of limiting "democracy" to the power users you also include consumers this way.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse