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0 pointsoefrha2y ago0 comments

“Want to contribute? Subscribe to our mailing list that sends a hundred emails a day.” Nope.

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Subscribe to our mailing list, where we are rude and dismissive if you accidentally dare make a line longer than 50 characters, (didn't you read our netiquette?) as some members like to read their emails on outdated devices without text reflow capable display software. Also don't dare to use non-ASCII Unicode characters, or we will be rude and will ignore your request. Just spell your name in American, because that is what real programmers do!

BaculumMeumEst2y ago

Even better is when people post issues on Reddit or whatever asking for help because that's the most low friction way for them to ask, and then a project contributor replies with "hey can you send this to the mailing list?" and so the person sends it in and is met with exactly fucking this. It's just such a great use of everyone's time.

severus_snape2y ago

You don't need to subscribe. You are in CC when people want you to be notified, otherwise there are web interfaces you can browse. See https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/ for example. On each message there is a button: "reply via email to [...]".

brettermeier2y ago

Damn, this is ugly and confusing, I mean, look at the threads XD! I'm glad I must not use this shit.

IshKebab2y ago

Shh now. A basic interface that took 5 minutes to make in 1995 is good enough for all eternity. No need to change it.

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emptysongglass2y ago

This interface is awful. I wish GNU would make more of an effort to be easy to contribute to.

severus_snape2y ago

I usually know, when the interface is not too shiny, that the content might be good. It's the same with HN. And those interfaces are still very easy to understand and use.

That being said, there is certainly room for improvement.

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catern2y ago

You don't have to subscribe to send a patch to a mailing list.

oefrhaOP2y ago

I have more than once subscribed just to report a bug or send a patch because the mailing list rejects emails from non-subscribers.

Edit: Btw, yes I have done the periodically-check-archive thing in the past, thank you. Hated it. Also missed a response once because I forgot to check and replier didn't CC. I realized like a month later.

catern2y ago

It is unfortunate that there are poorly-managed projects with poorly-managed mailing lists (just like there are poorly-managed projects on Github), but sourcehut at least requires a properly-managed mailing list, and I think you should evaluate this workflow on that standard. Tell poorly-managed projects to move to sourcehut, if you want to fix this issue.

Hackbraten2y ago

Even then, you’re free to opt into daily digests if you’re a subscriber. The message ID allows you to reply to individual messages and threads nonetheless.

sjamaan2y ago

Presumably you'd be interested in any feedback, and not everyone CCs the original author in their reply.

nolist_policy2y ago

Reply-to-all is the standard policy on most mailing lists. Especially on -devel lists since you'll pull in (CC:) people outside of the mailing list (cross-project) into discussions from time to time.

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solatic2y ago

Genuine question: why is this a problem? Every modern email provider allows you to set up filters that move all the mailing list emails into a seperate folder/tag, skip your Inbox, and set up auto-cleanup to delete emails older than X days so that the volume doesn't result in you exhausting your storage allocation. And if you find yourself never actually taking part in that software's discussion and it actually turns out to be completely irrelevant to you, then unsubscribe...

rakoo2y ago

"Want to contribute ? Open yet another account" Nope

"Want to contribute ? Give Microsoft even more power" Nope

fomine32y ago

This is a biggest blocker.

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fodkodrasz2y ago

BaculumMeumEst2y ago

severus_snape2y ago

brettermeier2y ago

Damn, this is ugly and confusing, I mean, look at the threads XD! I'm glad I must not use this shit.

IshKebab2y ago

Shh now. A basic interface that took 5 minutes to make in 1995 is good enough for all eternity. No need to change it.

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emptysongglass2y ago

This interface is awful. I wish GNU would make more of an effort to be easy to contribute to.

severus_snape2y ago

I usually know, when the interface is not too shiny, that the content might be good. It's the same with HN. And those interfaces are still very easy to understand and use.

That being said, there is certainly room for improvement.

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catern2y ago

You don't have to subscribe to send a patch to a mailing list.

oefrhaOP2y ago

I have more than once subscribed just to report a bug or send a patch because the mailing list rejects emails from non-subscribers.

catern2y ago

Hackbraten2y ago

Even then, you’re free to opt into daily digests if you’re a subscriber. The message ID allows you to reply to individual messages and threads nonetheless.

sjamaan2y ago

Presumably you'd be interested in any feedback, and not everyone CCs the original author in their reply.

nolist_policy2y ago

Reply-to-all is the standard policy on most mailing lists. Especially on -devel lists since you'll pull in (CC:) people outside of the mailing list (cross-project) into discussions from time to time.

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solatic2y ago

rakoo2y ago

"Want to contribute ? Open yet another account" Nope

"Want to contribute ? Give Microsoft even more power" Nope

fomine32y ago

This is a biggest blocker.

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