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0 pointspcl2y ago0 comments

Seriously. I used to have a microwave and oven stacked on top of each other. Both had an LCD, and so some horrible PMs somewhere presumably had entire sets of meetings to spec out the clock feature.

The microwave would not function if the time and AM/PM values were not set. (As far as I could tell, there was no way to actually ever see the AM/PM value after setting it!)

So. Every time the power went out, I would be confronted with blinking times on clocks I didn’t even want, and a nonfunctional microwave.

I will never buy a kitchen appliance with a mandatory clock ever again.

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lb1lf2y ago

My Siemens oven wanted an Internet connection on first power up.

I fired off an E-mail to Siemens, stating that there was ONE feature which could tempt me into granting it access: NTP support.

Much to my surprise, I got an enthusiastic reply from an engineer stating that this would be rolled out in a future firmware update.

Fingers crossed.

jghn2y ago

A while back I got an Amazon branded microwave w/ Alexa integration. I bought it because it was one of the few I could find in the form factor I wanted, and used the novelty factor to break the tie. The voice activation is useless, but the one thing I love about it is that when the power blinks out it'll get the time from the nearby Alexa & set itself. No more blinking.

JohnFen2y ago

> My Siemens oven wanted an Internet connection on first power up.

I hadn't thought of that. I'll add that to my list of reasons why I will not buy an appliance that wants to connect to a network.

bryanrasmussen2y ago

thinking of internet of things - I would expect ntp was top on the to do list for anything wanting to be on that.

samplatt2y ago

I would assume that it usually IS a feature on the top of a list... but then they actually start to work on it, and a new fresh set of young developers get exposed to the nightmarish clusterfuck that is datetimes and networking, and then it eventually gets rejected.

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beezlewax2y ago

I set up a second private network on my router for iot devices. On a but on a whim.. I don't know how private but its something

kevincox2y ago

Not to mention having to update the time every DST transition otherwise you have a wrong clock which is worst than no clock at all.

cassianoleal2y ago

I usually set such clocks to some random time that's so off you would never mistake it for the real thing.

SAI_Peregrinus2y ago

I tend to set non-TZ-aware/non-NTP clocks to UTC.

JohnFen2y ago

I do this as well. It works well for me.

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0 pointspcl2y ago0 comments

Seriously. I used to have a microwave and oven stacked on top of each other. Both had an LCD, and so some horrible PMs somewhere presumably had entire sets of meetings to spec out the clock feature.

The microwave would not function if the time and AM/PM values were not set. (As far as I could tell, there was no way to actually ever see the AM/PM value after setting it!)

So. Every time the power went out, I would be confronted with blinking times on clocks I didn’t even want, and a nonfunctional microwave.

I will never buy a kitchen appliance with a mandatory clock ever again.

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lb1lf2y ago

My Siemens oven wanted an Internet connection on first power up.

I fired off an E-mail to Siemens, stating that there was ONE feature which could tempt me into granting it access: NTP support.

Much to my surprise, I got an enthusiastic reply from an engineer stating that this would be rolled out in a future firmware update.

Fingers crossed.

jghn2y ago

JohnFen2y ago

> My Siemens oven wanted an Internet connection on first power up.

I hadn't thought of that. I'll add that to my list of reasons why I will not buy an appliance that wants to connect to a network.

bryanrasmussen2y ago

thinking of internet of things - I would expect ntp was top on the to do list for anything wanting to be on that.

samplatt2y ago

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beezlewax2y ago

I set up a second private network on my router for iot devices. On a but on a whim.. I don't know how private but its something

kevincox2y ago

Not to mention having to update the time every DST transition otherwise you have a wrong clock which is worst than no clock at all.

cassianoleal2y ago

I usually set such clocks to some random time that's so off you would never mistake it for the real thing.

SAI_Peregrinus2y ago

I tend to set non-TZ-aware/non-NTP clocks to UTC.

JohnFen2y ago

I do this as well. It works well for me.

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