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0 pointssteve19772y ago0 comments

> Wouldn't it be great to power down an idle server, knowing that it can be switched on seconds before you actually need it?

considering you would still need to boot the VMs then, once the Oxide system is up, I’m not sure if this is such a big win.

And at a certain scale you’d probably have something like multiple systems and VMware vMotion or alternatives anyway. So if the ESXi host (for example) takes a while to boot, I wouldn’t care too much.

And, economics of elasticity - you’d still have to buy the Oxide server, even if it’s idle.

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repelsteeltje2y ago

> considering you would still need to boot the VMs then, once the Oxide system is up, I’m not sure if this is such a big win.

To be honoust, I'm using containers most of the time these days but even the full blown windows VMs I'm orchestrating boot in less than 20s, assuming the hypervisor is operational. I think that's about on par with public cloud, no?

> [...] vMotion [...] ESXi.

Is VMware still a thing? Started with virsh, kvm/qemu a decade ago and never looked back.

> And, economics of elasticity - you’d still have to buy the Oxide server, even if it’s idle.

That's a big part of the equation indeed. This is where hyperscalers have an advantage that Oxide at some point in the future might enjoy as well. Interesting to see how much of that they will be willing to share with their customers...

steve1977OP2y ago

Re VMware, it’s certainly still a thing in enterprise environments. Can kvm do things like live migration in the meantime? For me it’s the other way round, haven’t looked into that for a while ;)

How do you mean Oxide might have that advantage as well in the future? As I understand, you have to buy hardware from them?

repelsteeltje2y ago

Ah yes live migration, off course. We design "ephemeral" applications that scale horizontally and use load balancer to migrate. With 99% of traffic serviced from CDN cache updates and migrations have a very different set of challenges.

As to your question, I meant to say that as volumes and scales economies increase they can source materials far cheaper than regular shops. Possibly similar to AWS, gcs, Azure, akamai etc. It would be nice if they were able and willing to translate some of those scales economies into prices commensurate with comparable public cloud instances.

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repelsteeltje2y ago

> considering you would still need to boot the VMs then, once the Oxide system is up, I’m not sure if this is such a big win.

> [...] vMotion [...] ESXi.

Is VMware still a thing? Started with virsh, kvm/qemu a decade ago and never looked back.

> And, economics of elasticity - you’d still have to buy the Oxide server, even if it’s idle.

steve1977OP2y ago

How do you mean Oxide might have that advantage as well in the future? As I understand, you have to buy hardware from them?

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