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0 pointsshepherdjerred2y ago0 comments

> Not everything needs to be encrypted. If I'm serving static webpages the only thing I might want to log is the which IPs visited at what time of day.

As a frequent user of public WiFi (mostly at coffee shops, airports, etc.), I prefer that every page is encrypted so that nobody can MITM me/tamper with what I see in my browser, even on plain text pages.

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averageRoyalty2y ago

If you are frequently using networks you suspect to be hostile, wouldn't you L2VPN your traffic back to a trusted exit point regardless? HTTP/HTTPS is likely only part of the information your computer is providing to said hostile networks. Worrying about the encryption of plain text pages seems to be like worrying about a stain on the couch whilst the house is on fire.

shepherdjerredOP2y ago

I think there are two discussions here:

* Is using HTTPS enough on an insecure network? Should one also be using a VPN?

* Would end-users see a benefit from HTTPS on simple/plaintext sites?

> HTTP/HTTPS is likely only part of the information your computer is providing to said hostile networks.

What other non-encrypted information might a normal person's computer be communicating?

I understand that VPNs do improve privacy. Privacy is moderately important to me, but I don't think it's important enough for me to use a VPN.

There are also occasional vulnerabilities in TLS/SSL/HTTPS but... what can I really do about that? Even a VPN might establish its session with those technologies.

> wouldn't you L2VPN your traffic back to a trusted exit point regardless?

It's reasonable to expect someone technical like myself to do this, and maybe I am really just playing loose with my security. But, nobody outside of the tech community is even thinking about this. 99% of people are happy using whatever WiFi is free and aren't going to question its security.

So, using HTTPS for "simple" sites is still beneficial since you will be making your content more secure for less technical users who might be on insecure networks.

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