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0 pointsboredpeter2y ago0 comments

My criticism of there being a few corporate gatekeepers of communication that are bullied by the government to censor content it doesn’t like is valid. You’re free to believe whatever neocon libertarian nonsense you wish.

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abracadaniel2y ago

And what if the corporate gatekeepers censor themselves due to market forces instead? Like advertisers threatening to pull funding because they don’t think it’s a good look for them.

krapp2y ago

Outside of coercion from government, self-censorship is just an expression of personal liberty and freedom of association, isn't it?

You can't believe in free speech and also believe platforms should be forced to publish speech they don't want, or advertisers to associate themselves with it.

peyton2y ago

Do you believe Osama bin Laden has the right to kill civilians, as he claims in his letter?

boredpeterOP2y ago

I believe that in a free democratic society people should be allowed to read a letter written by an Islamic fundamentalist who orchestrated the largest terrorist attack against the United States.

I believe people should be allowed to form their own opinions about his motives beyond what US government propagandists want the US public to believe.

Contrary to public belief, I don’t think they did it because they hate our freedom. And I think if you do believe that and you also see no problem with platform after platform trying to scrub the document from public view then you’ve got your head on backwards.

flashback21992y ago

I think most would agree that writing shouldn't get banned like 1984 style, but tiktok picks and chooses random videos to shove in people's faces to watch, so it's not like users would have looked up this letter and were prevented from reading it, it sounds like they're trying to prevent videos about it from being shoved in people's faces who weren't looking for it, it's a bit different don't you think?

flextheruler2y ago

People aren’t allowed to read something because it isn’t on TikTok is certainly not a take I’d expect to hear from someone rallying against America.

Typically that’s a right wing conservative argument that Trump and Fox News parrot about Alex Jones and what not.

alphanullmeric2y ago

I don’t support any government bullying of private companies, although I’m sure any level of consistency would be unfamiliar to people like you.

Should TikTok be allowed to control what goes onto their service? That’s a yes or no question.

shove2y ago

The government bullying left-leaning foreign governments is chill though, right guys?

alphanullmeric2y ago

No. The US government should stay out of other countries business’. They should even stay out of NATO. But again, I’m sure you don’t have that level of consistency.

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boredpeterOP2y ago

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alphanullmeric2y ago

Oh this is hilarious. Not only do you confirm that you wouldn't support them doing what they choose to with their service in the absence of government intervention, you would actively support the same government intervention you pretended to be against if it meant you could force them to do something you benefit from.

If you wanted to prove that consistency wasn't exclusive to me you've done a pretty poor job. Combing through someone's account to avoid a yes or no question is especially pathetic.

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abracadaniel2y ago

And what if the corporate gatekeepers censor themselves due to market forces instead? Like advertisers threatening to pull funding because they don’t think it’s a good look for them.

krapp2y ago

Outside of coercion from government, self-censorship is just an expression of personal liberty and freedom of association, isn't it?

You can't believe in free speech and also believe platforms should be forced to publish speech they don't want, or advertisers to associate themselves with it.

peyton2y ago

Do you believe Osama bin Laden has the right to kill civilians, as he claims in his letter?

boredpeterOP2y ago

I believe that in a free democratic society people should be allowed to read a letter written by an Islamic fundamentalist who orchestrated the largest terrorist attack against the United States.

I believe people should be allowed to form their own opinions about his motives beyond what US government propagandists want the US public to believe.

flashback21992y ago

flextheruler2y ago

People aren’t allowed to read something because it isn’t on TikTok is certainly not a take I’d expect to hear from someone rallying against America.

Typically that’s a right wing conservative argument that Trump and Fox News parrot about Alex Jones and what not.

alphanullmeric2y ago

I don’t support any government bullying of private companies, although I’m sure any level of consistency would be unfamiliar to people like you.

Should TikTok be allowed to control what goes onto their service? That’s a yes or no question.

shove2y ago

The government bullying left-leaning foreign governments is chill though, right guys?

alphanullmeric2y ago

No. The US government should stay out of other countries business’. They should even stay out of NATO. But again, I’m sure you don’t have that level of consistency.

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boredpeterOP2y ago

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alphanullmeric2y ago

If you wanted to prove that consistency wasn't exclusive to me you've done a pretty poor job. Combing through someone's account to avoid a yes or no question is especially pathetic.

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