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0 pointsAbekkus2y ago0 comments

If you want to be a doomer, you don't need agi, just autonomous weapons, which ML can definitely help build.

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You don’t even need ML for that plus it already exists, Soviets had Dead Hand decades ago, an autonomous weapon system capable of ending the world.

AbekkusOP2y ago

Autononous weapons capable of ending the world are old, yes. Autonomous weapons capable of securing territory and resources, and personnel, that's on the way.

keepamovin2y ago

Interesting. Do you have any specific program heads-up about this? I'm curious to read more. :)

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keepamovin2y ago

Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but...So any counterpoint to your AGI view is irrational pessimism?

I'm not bein doomer, this is just what I see going forward.

I think AGI can be positive, but it depends vastly how we configure that. And this is not the path that I see is best. That's it.

I get if you're a 100% AGI optimist and see any dissent to that as out of touch, but it's a leeetl disrespectfully reductive to try to frame other people's views that way, don't ya think?

AbekkusOP2y ago

“DisRespect and insult” is a strange take on strategic advice. And While I’m already probably on a few lists, I don’t feel safe spelling it all out

keepamovin2y ago

I didn't say "insult", but "doomer" is not strategic advice, right? That's what I meant. "Doomer" is a bad thing, yeah? You didn't have to say that. Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but it just seems like you were being disrespectful and reductive of other people's views, as I said.

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kjkjadksj2y ago

You don’t even need ML for that plus it already exists, Soviets had Dead Hand decades ago, an autonomous weapon system capable of ending the world.

AbekkusOP2y ago

Autononous weapons capable of ending the world are old, yes. Autonomous weapons capable of securing territory and resources, and personnel, that's on the way.

keepamovin2y ago

Interesting. Do you have any specific program heads-up about this? I'm curious to read more. :)

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keepamovin2y ago

Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but...So any counterpoint to your AGI view is irrational pessimism?

I'm not bein doomer, this is just what I see going forward.

I think AGI can be positive, but it depends vastly how we configure that. And this is not the path that I see is best. That's it.

I get if you're a 100% AGI optimist and see any dissent to that as out of touch, but it's a leeetl disrespectfully reductive to try to frame other people's views that way, don't ya think?

AbekkusOP2y ago

“DisRespect and insult” is a strange take on strategic advice. And While I’m already probably on a few lists, I don’t feel safe spelling it all out

keepamovin2y ago

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