Okay, I understand that you have a right to request those documents - but it's the day before Thanksgiving, and the right people aren't available. Yes, I get it - the law says "Immediately" if at the headquarters, but give some slack - it's a holiday. Come back on Monday.
The guy got shoved because he was repeatedly told not to be on the private property, and instead he decided to walk in - and then start claiming he's on the sidewalk (Which she, now they were). He was told he was trespassing, he refused, and they have a right to use reasonable force to remove him. Considering they did that directly in front of a police officer, I think highlights the OpenAI guy is fine.
This reeks of like "I'm right in one thing - so I'm right in everything". People are human man, again - come back Monday. Go enjoy time with your family and stop trying to pick a fight right now.
[1]: https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/public-disclosure-...
Officers handled it well.
Clearly these people at openai didn't know what to do. The company is in chaos, it's almost in dumpster fire territory at this time (is the ceo sam back, do they even have a CEO or other leadership still left, did the board quit, is there anyone on the board, are lawyers in charge there?). And it is the day before Thanksgiving. But many companies that don't want to give up required information would do similar things, like say I don't know, we don't have the right people here today to decide what to do. If you are a journalist you have to require fair treatment and politely demand what is legally possible. It's just what you do to succeed. Companies don't treat you like you are Ted Kopell and just hand it over.
It's the last thing anyone at openai wants to see, but it's what people have to do to get the facts. They don't usually post the videos where they get incorrectly refused maybe but this is an every day event for a journalist. Showing these kinds of videos shows what real journalists face every day. You think the person investigating say the public expense reports of a mayor just gets them without insisting? No, she does not, without being politely forceful.
Yeah - I get it, law says "immediately", but the journalist needs to chill and just try again Monday. It's a holiday week. Barking up the wrong tree.
With that said it still doesn't mean that if don't do that that you get to shove your way in (or try to) and start yelling at people lol.
I'm sure the actual process is that if they are required to do so and do not then you a member of the public ("data journalist" or otherwise) can pursue legal action. The "I'm entering the property NOW!" thing is likely not codified into whatever law this guy is quoting. "If they don't turn it over you're allowed to invade the corporate HQ!" Doubtful.
Other prominent non-profits do not seem to have this problem.
Update: ok, I skimmed the article and there's a lot more to it than what's in the videos. This is a non-story by someone with a vendetta. That money transmitter law is bullshit. Enforcement of it is bullshit. Sucks that you tried to do the "right" thing and follow the law, but it's probably best to just move on from that. What do you hope to accomplish by continuing to pursue this?
That's what he was saying. And being under threat of prison doesn't sound fun, so he did the right thing to fight it.
Do you have any expert knowledge on the law?
No expert knowledge of the law.
OpenAI's Form-990s from previous years are all available at https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810...
Including their entire 2021 filing https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/810...
Along with the nice visualizations the site provides.
every random annoying dude with a substack is a journalist. you're not special. and yeah, maybe once upon a time there was a legitimate reason for concern when people tried to suppress journalism. but now everybody is a journalist, and so there's no special privileges for journalism. if you turn up at a business and start harassing employees, expect to get shoved out the door, regardless of whether or not you have applied the "journalist" label to yourself.
https://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/01/technology/01facebook.htm...
https://web.archive.org/web/20210121084819/https://gawker.co...
There was some kind of settlement eventually:
https://about.fb.com/news/2009/05/facebook-and-think-compute...
There are reasons nobody does this.
> They are smart people. About that I have no doubt. But I’ve seen how they treat rules. I know what they think of ethics.
Also:
> I have never met Sam, and I have only met Greg a couple of times.
I'm just saying, breaking rules in business is not necessarily the same as being unethical. Especially financial/regulatory capture rules like it seems the author is complaining about.
Different things are at stake with AI, and I think we're all aligned.
Can you explain this?
What’s the end game here? Cops aren’t interpreters of the law, they don’t care about your statutes. And frankly, they could be out actually doing something instead of talking down knucklehead “journalists”
Sovereign citizens claim to be independent of the laws of the United States.
This is a dispute about a company failing to comply with a specific law of the United States.
