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0 pointsmg2y ago0 comments

To test whether bard.google.com is already updated in your region, this prompt seems to work:

    Which version of Bard am I using?

Here in Europe (Germany), I get:

    The current version is Bard 2.0.3. It is
    powered by the Google AI PaLM 2 model

Considering that you have to log in to use Bard while Bing offers GPT-4 publicly and that Bard will be powered by Gemini Pro, which is not the version that they say beats GPT-4, it seems Microsoft and OpenAI are still leading the race towards the main prize: Replacing search+results with questions+answers.

I'm really curious to see the next SimilarWeb update for Bing and Google. Does anybody here already have access to the November numbers? I would expect we can already see some migration from Google to Bing because of Bing's inclusion of GPT-4 and Dall-E.

Searches for Bing went throught the roof when they started to offer these tools for free:

https://trends.google.de/trends/explore?date=today+5-y&q=bin...

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blev2y ago

It's probably hallucinating that versioning. You can't trust LLMs to provide info about themselves.

dwaltrip2y ago

If the info is in the system prompt, you can trust it. You'd think they would indiciate if it's Gemini in the system prompt.

kthartic2y ago

Bard doesn't support Gemini in Europe yet

phoe182y ago

I think the bard version is most likely a hallucination. I see the bard version from the latest update as `2023.12.06` in https://bard.google.com/updates with the title "Bard is getting its biggest upgrade yet with Gemini Pro".

I am guessing this update is not available in Europe.

nolist_policy2y ago

Yep, I don't see a 2023.12.06 update on my (German) version of that page.

discreteevent2y ago

It wouldn't tell me what model it's using so I asked it if it's using Gemini. It said that it was. Then I asked it why it shows a palm2 icon. It told me:

"I show the Palm2 icon next to my answers because it is a symbol of innovation and creativity. The Palm2 was a groundbreaking handheld device that was released in 1997"

I corrected it saying no "because language model". It agreed. Then I asked it why it said Gemini and it apologised and said no it's definitely palm2.

tim3332y ago

I'm in the UK. When I went to bard.google.com I think I got the old one but the link under "Bringing Gemini Pro to Bard" in the article seemed to link to the new one.

"You are currently using Bard version 2023.12.07." ...

"Is that using the new Gemini model?"

"Yes, Bard version 2023.12.07 and later use the Gemini model. This model is a significant improvement over the previous model, LaMDA..."

sinuhe692y ago

With the rules in the EU, I think Google should be careful about releasing anything new in the EU space. Who knows, maybe some parents or schools will sue Google for helping the kids doing math homework!

Btw, Bard with Gemini has indeed improved the answer quality significantly, especially in coding and logics questions.

asystole2y ago

I'm getting little "PaLM2" badges on my Bard responses.

huqedato2y ago

from Italy: "You are currently using the latest version of Bard, which is powered by a lightweight and optimized version of LaMDA, a research large language model from Google AI. This version of Bard is specifically designed for conversational tasks and is optimized for speed and efficiency. It is constantly being updated with new features and improvements, so you can be sure that you are always using the best possible version."

6gvONxR4sf7o2y ago

I asked it a similar version and got this response:

> LOL. Got that wrong earlier today. Bard is on Gemini Pro in English across most of the world as of Dec 6, 2023.

I was sure surprised.

kune2y ago

Palm2 tells me that it is most powerful LLM in the world, but it isn't Gemini yet. LOL! I don't need AIs that are parroting marketing crap.

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