Forest Elephants and Infrasound (opens in new tab)

(elephantlisteningproject.org)

42 pointslogikblok2y ago8 comments

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Top quality work! Very interesting read.

The use of microcontrollers in the swift unit suggests that the sound localization is all post processing, is there any value or intentions for real time sound localization?

Clearly that would require much more battery power but I was wondering if it was consider added value to this particular research if that were possible.

hcfman2y ago

And if they do, then I have a project that can help with that :)

Raspberry Pi based ARU that would draw a bunch more power but would be able to perform local real-time elephant sound event detection to use with real time localization.

https://github.com/hcfman/sbts-aru

brudgers2y ago

I looked at the picture of the elephant and thought infrasound makes sense.

The size of elephant ears would probably work better with longer wavelengths.

gus_massa2y ago

My guess is that the deciding factor is the throat.

Yuo can have tiny ears if it would be better, but you need a throat of the corrrect size for breathing and eating.

Terr_2y ago

If the longer wavelengths are useful because they aren't impeded by obstacles like masses of forest leaves, then the same properties probably mean ear-flaps aren't really effective to shape/concentrate them either. (Although they could be used as a filter to block out higher frequencies.)

joshuaheard2y ago

I think the large ears are for cooling the big bodies.

neonnoodle2y ago

Yeah. Think about wooly mammoths - tiny/no external ears.

jaystraw2y ago

i'm curious as to the transducers used for the playback experiments. also wondering if there aren't things like sibilance in human speech that make communication if perhaps not understood, at least audible to them. interesting!

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8 comments

hcfman2y ago

Top quality work! Very interesting read.

The use of microcontrollers in the swift unit suggests that the sound localization is all post processing, is there any value or intentions for real time sound localization?

Clearly that would require much more battery power but I was wondering if it was consider added value to this particular research if that were possible.

hcfman2y ago

And if they do, then I have a project that can help with that :)

Raspberry Pi based ARU that would draw a bunch more power but would be able to perform local real-time elephant sound event detection to use with real time localization.

https://github.com/hcfman/sbts-aru

brudgers2y ago

I looked at the picture of the elephant and thought infrasound makes sense.

The size of elephant ears would probably work better with longer wavelengths.

gus_massa2y ago

My guess is that the deciding factor is the throat.

Yuo can have tiny ears if it would be better, but you need a throat of the corrrect size for breathing and eating.

Terr_2y ago

joshuaheard2y ago

I think the large ears are for cooling the big bodies.

neonnoodle2y ago

Yeah. Think about wooly mammoths - tiny/no external ears.

jaystraw2y ago

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