Vision-only is stupid. I can't see through fog and have a tough time with glare and can't see in the dark. Other technologies aren't subject to the same limitations. Don't we want these things to be better at driving than humans?

> Waymo will coninue piddling around SF with their $500,000 cars until eternity

And Phoenix, and very soon LA, and very soon Austin. They're expanding, not staying in one spot for eternity.

> Meanwhile Tesla and Comma (both pure vision) are the only operational L3 systems being used every day by regular people to drive millions of miles.

What a coincidence, because L2 (what Tesla actually is) to L4 self driving are millions of miles away from each other.

You’re wrong on most counts.

1. Waymo costs around $120,000 and the cost is rapidly dropping with new hardware generations and vehicle platforms. They’re in LA, soon in Austin, airport rides in Phoenix and imminent highway driving.

2. Tesla and Comma are only L2, not even L3.

Tesla is Level 2.

Too many sources to cite but here is Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Autopilot