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0 pointsmdhb2y ago0 comments

You’re getting smashed for no particularly good reason in my opinion.

I am in the camp if I like the idea of Obsidian but I have a bunch of other stuff I want to include and do stuff with like JSON-LD data for example.

But the idea of writing raw HTML is in fact a huge pain in the ass as everyone was all too eager to point out here.

We have had markdown to HTML converters and visual editing experiences for a long time now and I don’t know why the argument has to be “write in raw HTML” I barely even want to write Markdown when taking notes, I just want to write.

So in that spirit I think HTML and and in browser experience is in fact the right answer I just need to put an editor on top of it and a way to run code when I hit publish to update the graph visualisations and statistics that people seem to really like with Obsidian.

I actually think this might be a really good usecase for the built in IndexedDB API built into browsers so long as you can also back it up and sync across devices.

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jimmytucson2y ago

Yeah, clearly I touched a nerve :)

But I still don't know what Obsidian gives you besides letting you write in Markdown instead of HTML. And that is basically a Markdown to HTML converter, as you pointed out.

antiframe2y ago

You are dismissing what people are telling you. Several have pointed out that Markdown is easier to read and write when taking notes. For example, lists where each item has an additional ~14 keystrokes per item, links which have an additional ~20 keystrokes.

Your answer was that that doesn't matter. If that's your view, you are welcome to it, but that's why /other/ people choose Markdown over HTML for notes.

jimmytucson2y ago

Not dismissing it at all. My original comment asks that very question. I was just wondering if there's anything else that Obsidian offers besides Markdown syntax, since hyperlinking documents and application-agnostic data formats are also features of HTML.

I don't understand where all the feelings are coming from. :)

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chrisweekly2y ago

It's hard to overstate the flowstate Obsidian enables with live / wysiwyg editor view -- enjoy the clean look of rendered HTML while typing simple markdown and kbd shortcuts -- "the whole is greater than the sum of its parts". There are many other reasons I love Obsidian, but most of all it's the core function -- the editor interface, atop my local, private markdown files.

mdhbOP2y ago

Yes but this is the exact point.

We could have that exact same workflow and user interface with HTML.

I (presumably along with the person you’re replying to) don’t understand what value Markdown as the storage format is providing here exactly but I can think of many limitations it imposes.

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0 pointsmdhb2y ago0 comments

You’re getting smashed for no particularly good reason in my opinion.

I am in the camp if I like the idea of Obsidian but I have a bunch of other stuff I want to include and do stuff with like JSON-LD data for example.

But the idea of writing raw HTML is in fact a huge pain in the ass as everyone was all too eager to point out here.

I actually think this might be a really good usecase for the built in IndexedDB API built into browsers so long as you can also back it up and sync across devices.

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jimmytucson2y ago

Yeah, clearly I touched a nerve :)

But I still don't know what Obsidian gives you besides letting you write in Markdown instead of HTML. And that is basically a Markdown to HTML converter, as you pointed out.

antiframe2y ago

Your answer was that that doesn't matter. If that's your view, you are welcome to it, but that's why /other/ people choose Markdown over HTML for notes.

jimmytucson2y ago

I don't understand where all the feelings are coming from. :)

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chrisweekly2y ago

mdhbOP2y ago

Yes but this is the exact point.

We could have that exact same workflow and user interface with HTML.

I (presumably along with the person you’re replying to) don’t understand what value Markdown as the storage format is providing here exactly but I can think of many limitations it imposes.

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