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0 pointsAdieuToLogic2y ago0 comments

> (Not .NET I should say ;))

Perhaps it might be[0]?

I'm not quite sure how I feel about that however... :-D

0 - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/install/

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totetsu2y ago

Everyone has autonomy over their own system. Who are we to judge if they want to do something like that.

delta_p_delta_x2y ago

> do something like that

What's wrong with this? Genuine question.

Modern .NET is fully open-source with a permissive MIT licence. This includes the compiler and analysers infrastructure (Roslyn), the package manager (Nuget), and even the shell language (PowerShell).

It is a superb alternative to Java, Go, and similar languages. Why is using .NET on Linux or MacOS such a weird thing?

luismedel2y ago

Agree. While I completely understand and respect anyone's reasons to not use any piece of tech, always we talk about .net I find funny that the main reason to not use it is that "it comes from M$$$$44". That's all the technical analysis.

In my experience, is as great as any other backend stack for UNIX. But, hey! If anyone wants to ban a piece of software on their systems for whatever random reason, they're free to do that. Luckily they have tons of alternatives from companies with great sense of ethics (Go, Swift, Java, ...)

delta_p_delta_x2y ago

> companies with great sense of ethics (Go, Swift, Java, ...)

Love the sarcasm here, heh.

HeckFeck2y ago

Developing a .NET CRUD webapp on Mac using Rider, ASP.NET + EF Core and PgSQL.

Deploying on Debian Linux behind a reverse proxy.

It's a comfy life. Everything (more so than the Java ecosystem) just works.

That said, I still have that nagging fear that Microsoft will do a Microsoft in some way and I'll be forced back onto Windows with all its attendant horrors.

leosanchez2y ago

This[1] comes under "doing a Microsoft right" ? It is my belief that M$ is intentionally not improving dotnet watch.

The current implementation is not as good as what you get from javascript world.

1. https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/22/22740701/microsoft-dotne...

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donny20182y ago

I have a feeling that Microsoft has “let go” of Windows. It has expanded far beyond it and no longer even needs to depend on it as a separate revenue stream.

hulke2y ago

As far as I know the .net debugger infrastructure is not open source, so unless you are happy to stay within the confines of VSCode, I think that your options are pretty limited for stepping through your code.

Running .net code on Linux is fine, though.

delta_p_delta_x2y ago

> the .net debugger infrastructure is not open source

This is vsdbg (which comes with Visual Studio 2022 and the Microsoft-provided binary of VS Code).

There are alternatives like OmniSharp[1], the debugger shipped with JetBrains Rider, and Samsung's netcoredbg[2].

[1]: https://github.com/OmniSharp

[2]: https://github.com/Samsung/netcoredbg

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otaconjh2y ago

i'm currently developing .net apps in neovim with full LSP support, it's lovely. There are definitely alternative debuggers, such as netcoredbg from Samsung

nazgulsenpai2y ago

I tried debugging my .net project in VS Codium and can't because the debugger will only run in Microsoft's Visual Studio Code. That was enough to make me second guess putting my eggs in that basket.

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totetsu2y ago

Everyone has autonomy over their own system. Who are we to judge if they want to do something like that.

delta_p_delta_x2y ago

> do something like that

What's wrong with this? Genuine question.

It is a superb alternative to Java, Go, and similar languages. Why is using .NET on Linux or MacOS such a weird thing?

luismedel2y ago

delta_p_delta_x2y ago

> companies with great sense of ethics (Go, Swift, Java, ...)

Love the sarcasm here, heh.

HeckFeck2y ago

Developing a .NET CRUD webapp on Mac using Rider, ASP.NET + EF Core and PgSQL.

Deploying on Debian Linux behind a reverse proxy.

It's a comfy life. Everything (more so than the Java ecosystem) just works.

That said, I still have that nagging fear that Microsoft will do a Microsoft in some way and I'll be forced back onto Windows with all its attendant horrors.

leosanchez2y ago

This[1] comes under "doing a Microsoft right" ? It is my belief that M$ is intentionally not improving dotnet watch.

The current implementation is not as good as what you get from javascript world.

1. https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/22/22740701/microsoft-dotne...

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donny20182y ago

I have a feeling that Microsoft has “let go” of Windows. It has expanded far beyond it and no longer even needs to depend on it as a separate revenue stream.

hulke2y ago

Running .net code on Linux is fine, though.

delta_p_delta_x2y ago

> the .net debugger infrastructure is not open source

This is vsdbg (which comes with Visual Studio 2022 and the Microsoft-provided binary of VS Code).

There are alternatives like OmniSharp[1], the debugger shipped with JetBrains Rider, and Samsung's netcoredbg[2].

[1]: https://github.com/OmniSharp

[2]: https://github.com/Samsung/netcoredbg

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otaconjh2y ago

i'm currently developing .net apps in neovim with full LSP support, it's lovely. There are definitely alternative debuggers, such as netcoredbg from Samsung

nazgulsenpai2y ago

I tried debugging my .net project in VS Codium and can't because the debugger will only run in Microsoft's Visual Studio Code. That was enough to make me second guess putting my eggs in that basket.

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse