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0 pointsjamil72y ago0 comments

The fact that they’re still vastly less efficient than mass public transport, bikes or just walking.

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I'd love to see public transit that can go from arbitrary-point to arbitrary-point door to door in the same amount of time as a hailed EV could. I genuinely really would. I've never seen a proposal for such a system, only proposals that are less time-efficient than that.

cassepipe2y ago

You don't go arbitrary to arbitrary, you make the most of the transportation system and you walk/bike the last part. Of course the city has to be designed in a way where it's not a pain.

JoshTriplett2y ago

> You don't go arbitrary to arbitrary

Yes, I currently do. Not being able to do that is a downgrade. We can and should do better than telling people to accept a worse solution.

jamil7OP2y ago

That would be one of the least efficient ways to move people at scale around a city, which just enforces the original point.

JoshTriplett2y ago

It's more efficient than requiring parking.

And define "efficient"? People's time and effort have value, as well, and saving time and effort is a win. If a proposed solution is "it takes longer to get from place to place, and additionally requires walking or biking", many people will rightfully consider that proposal worse.

jamil7OP2y ago

> And define "efficient"?

Capacity, cost per passenger, environmental impact, space efficiency.

How does a hailed EV scale to every person in a city that needs to move around without the massive congestion problems we already see in car dominant cities?

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JoshTriplett2y ago

cassepipe2y ago

You don't go arbitrary to arbitrary, you make the most of the transportation system and you walk/bike the last part. Of course the city has to be designed in a way where it's not a pain.

JoshTriplett2y ago

> You don't go arbitrary to arbitrary

Yes, I currently do. Not being able to do that is a downgrade. We can and should do better than telling people to accept a worse solution.

jamil7OP2y ago

That would be one of the least efficient ways to move people at scale around a city, which just enforces the original point.

JoshTriplett2y ago

It's more efficient than requiring parking.

jamil7OP2y ago

> And define "efficient"?

Capacity, cost per passenger, environmental impact, space efficiency.

How does a hailed EV scale to every person in a city that needs to move around without the massive congestion problems we already see in car dominant cities?

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