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0 pointsSoftTalker2y ago0 comments

Cars aren't that loud. Trucks, buses, and trains are loud, and that is what you have a lot of in urban areas.

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Unless they're made badly, trains are very quiet! They sneak up on you. Cars, trucks, motorbikes, and construction sites are loud.

bluGill2y ago

Diesel trains are loud and shake the ground. electric trains are quiet and can sneak up on you.

SoftTalkerOP2y ago

Have you ever lived near the "el" in Chicago?

fragmede2y ago

Thing is, we can build better buildings that are more resistant to noise pollution, regardless of the source. If I can't hear my neighbors, then I can totally ignore them. Which makes it livable.

dns_snek2y ago

The problem with this is that it reinforces the notion that you "live" inside and only go outside when you need to get somewhere. How are you ever going to enjoy a nice street-side cup of coffee in peace? Or take a walk around your neighborhood? Or engage in any outdoor social activity?

If you allow the outside to be unpleasant, then people are increasingly going to stay inside which has negative societal ramifications.

fragmede2y ago

I think we can agree that not being woken up by your neighbors drunkenly blasting music at 3am is preferable to the alternative. But people should be able to live their lives and if they want to celebrate a big win at work or whatever, as long as it doesn't bother me, who am I to say they shouldn't at 3am on a Wednesday? Yes the outside needs to be nice as well, but we have to live together, and the best way is for me to be unable to hear them.

The outside needs to be nice, but making inside unpleasant doesn't accomplish that.

tekknik2y ago

> The outside needs to be nice, but making inside unpleasant doesn't accomplish that.

ignoring the problem outside exacerbates the issue and eventually leads to an undesirable outside. don’t live with broken windows.

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mitthrowaway22y ago

Unless they're made badly, trains are very quiet! They sneak up on you. Cars, trucks, motorbikes, and construction sites are loud.

bluGill2y ago

Diesel trains are loud and shake the ground. electric trains are quiet and can sneak up on you.

SoftTalkerOP2y ago

Have you ever lived near the "el" in Chicago?

fragmede2y ago

Thing is, we can build better buildings that are more resistant to noise pollution, regardless of the source. If I can't hear my neighbors, then I can totally ignore them. Which makes it livable.

dns_snek2y ago

If you allow the outside to be unpleasant, then people are increasingly going to stay inside which has negative societal ramifications.

fragmede2y ago

The outside needs to be nice, but making inside unpleasant doesn't accomplish that.

tekknik2y ago

> The outside needs to be nice, but making inside unpleasant doesn't accomplish that.

ignoring the problem outside exacerbates the issue and eventually leads to an undesirable outside. don’t live with broken windows.

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