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0 pointslolinder2y ago0 comments

> Nowhere did they state that seeing colors makes them feel like a baby.

Actually, that was a pretty reasonable translation of this line into low-brow speech:

> a broader, ongoing software infantilization process. Colors can't be sober either, everything has to be colorful, cheerful

The connection between these sentences is fairly clear: software is being infantilized and part of that is that everything has to be colorful and cheerful. Hence OP's translation into "seeing colours makes you feel like a baby and cheerful is a bad thing".

The translation into more casual language was rhetorically valuable in that it accentuated their broader point about how stuffy the original author sounds.

(And yes, I'm intentionally using stuffy language here because the casual language OP used seems to have whooshed.)

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Ruthalas2y ago

For what it's worth, my 'translation' would be, "The strong aversion to less colorful designs seems childish, and may go hand in hand with designs that treat the user as inept. I don't like being treated as inept or incapable."

Seems both more likely and more charitable.

jodrellblank2y ago

That's the same thing; "the aversion to less colourful designs seems childish" - no it doesn't. When the Queen of England wore pink, did you say "her aversion to less colourful clothes makes her seem like a child"? When someone buys a red Ferrari do you think they didn't buy a muted gray Ferrari because they seem childish? When a builder drives a yellow JCB do you think they wish for a gray bulldozer because colour is for infants? When Michaelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel do you think it was in a fit of infantile pique that he didn't make it monochrome? When a doctor recommends you eat a rainbow coloured meal of veg, do you think that seems more or less childish than only eating beige mashed potatoes and white fish? When a street sign says 'no entry' do you think the red border makes it look more childish than a black border? When someone has a blue can opener is that more childish than a metal can opener?

> "may go hand in hand with designs that treat the user as inept"

May, may not. Is orthogonal to.

> "I don't like being treated as inept or incapable."

What a chain of reasoning. "I don't like being treated as inept (fine), so to remind myself how capable I am I need to not look at colours otherwise I will fantasize that other people are laughing at me (not fine)".

Ruthalas2y ago

I still disagree with your characterization.

First, it's not that the UI is colorful, it's that many designers seem unwilling to make UIs that are monotone or subdued. That's different from disliking color for whatever reason.

The designer choosing that certain (more monotone) color schemes are not permitted could be conflated with designers making other decisions on behalf of the user, such as assuming the user would prefer fewer options for the sake of simplicity. ("Treating the user as inept")

I don't know what the OP meant exactly, but I still find your 'translation' uncharitable.

I personally like both brightly colored things, as well as more muted color schemes, depending on the situation. I don't personally think colors equate to childishness.

I can however empathize with someone unhappy that their personal aesthetic preference seems underrepresented, and feels that UI designers are making more choices on their behalf than they'd prefer.

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0 pointslolinder2y ago0 comments

> Nowhere did they state that seeing colors makes them feel like a baby.

Actually, that was a pretty reasonable translation of this line into low-brow speech:

> a broader, ongoing software infantilization process. Colors can't be sober either, everything has to be colorful, cheerful

The translation into more casual language was rhetorically valuable in that it accentuated their broader point about how stuffy the original author sounds.

(And yes, I'm intentionally using stuffy language here because the casual language OP used seems to have whooshed.)

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Ruthalas2y ago

Seems both more likely and more charitable.

jodrellblank2y ago

> "may go hand in hand with designs that treat the user as inept"

May, may not. Is orthogonal to.

> "I don't like being treated as inept or incapable."

Ruthalas2y ago

I still disagree with your characterization.

First, it's not that the UI is colorful, it's that many designers seem unwilling to make UIs that are monotone or subdued. That's different from disliking color for whatever reason.

I don't know what the OP meant exactly, but I still find your 'translation' uncharitable.

I personally like both brightly colored things, as well as more muted color schemes, depending on the situation. I don't personally think colors equate to childishness.

I can however empathize with someone unhappy that their personal aesthetic preference seems underrepresented, and feels that UI designers are making more choices on their behalf than they'd prefer.

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