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0 pointsmdeeks2y ago0 comments

A single event isn't a "track record". Though I guess he's been touting the Robotaxi idea for a long time and it still isn't anywhere on the horizon.

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LanceJones2y ago

My FSD V12.3 disagrees with the last part of your statement... and the recent experiences of 1000s of others with the recent upgrade.

mdeeksOP2y ago

FSD being good isn't really the same as the Robotaxi idea. Robotaxi was where you could rent out your car and it could completely autonomously drive other people for a fare. Your car would make money.

I haven't seen 12.3 but other versions had some frightening mistakes in videos. It feels like it will eternally be 90% there but never actually reach the end goal of completely autonomy.

Personally I love Autopilot even if I only use it to drive on the freeways for me when I'm tired.

panick21_2y ago

I think everybody understand that Musk (and others) were way to aggressive on self driving stuff. What their new version can do is impressive, but as you say, Robotaxi aren't all that close.

But do think saying this demo is fake based on to aggressive timelines for self driving is a stretch.

Veserv2y ago

No, they were unequivocal lies. In 2019:“ I think we will be feature-complete full self-driving this year, meaning the car will be able to find you in a parking lot, pick you up, take you all the way to your destination without an intervention — this year. I would say that I am certain of that. That is not a question mark." [1].

See the part where he says: "That is not a question mark." That is called making a clear and direct, unequivocal, unqualified, statement that he knew for certain was wrong. That is called lying.

[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-doubles-down-on-cl...

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