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0 pointsbnprks2y ago0 comments

Are you sure you're comparing equivalent memory and storage specs? I needed to go into the customization menus in the Dell configurator to spec something equivalent, where prices started going up quite rapidly.

For example "3.2TB Enterprise NVMe Mixed Use AG Drive U.2 Gen4 with carrier" is $3,301.65 each, and you'd need 10 of those to match the Oxide storage spec -- already above the $30k total price you quoted. Similarly, "128GB LRDIMM, 3200MT/s, Quad Rank" was $3,384.79 each, and you'd need 8 of those to reach the 1TiB of memory per server Oxide provides.

With just the RAM and SSD cost quoted by Dell, I get to $60k per server (x16 = $960k), which isn't counting CPU, power, or networking.

I agree these costs are way way way higher than what I'd expect for consumer RAM or SSD, but I think if Oxide is charging in line with Dell they should be asking at least $1MM for that hardware. (At least compared to Dell's list prices -- I don't purchase enterprise hardware either so I don't know how much discounting is typical)

Edit: the specific Dell server model I was working off of for configuration was called "PowerEdge R6515 Rack Server", since it was one of the few I found that allowed selecting the exact same AMD EPYC CPU model that Oxide uses [1]

[1]: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-poweredge-servers/power...

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amluto2y ago

> For example "3.2TB Enterprise NVMe Mixed Use AG Drive U.2 Gen4 with carrier" is $3,301.65 each

That’s the pricing for people who don’t know to ask for real pricing — it’s an absolute joke. I don’t know how might extra margin gets captured here, but it’s a lot.

Even in teeny tiny volumes, Dell will give something closer to real pricing, and a decent heuristic is that it’s at least 2x cheaper.

This is a real SSD. Dell likely buys this brand and others:

https://www.serversupply.com/SSD/NVMe/30.72TB/KIOXIA/KCMY1RU...

Yes, that is almost an order of magnitude cheaper per TiB. If you buy from a sketchier vendor, you’ll get all the way to 10x :)

11235813212y ago

Doesn’t Oxide also negotiate pricing?

Temporary_313372y ago

And they keep the margin to have money for R&D. I kind of get it because it’s low volume for now but I don’t necessarily see the appeal of being an early adopter here.

panick21_2y ago

The appeal is that your a buying into an open infrastructure system, rather then closed firmware and VMWare (now owned by ... Broadcom).

bnprksOP2y ago

Thanks for the link, and very good to know. I've always struggled to find component prices for Kioxia drives and higher-capacity RAM sticks so it's good to see I can finally look these up on serversupply when I'm curious.

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