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0 pointsdigging2y ago0 comments

> tilt them toward western liberal outcomes

Fortunately, this is not what I'm hoping for! I'd much rather see another Rojava than another Western plutocracy.

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> The AANES [Rojava] has widespread support for its universal democratic, sustainable, autonomous pluralist, equal, and feminist policies in dialogues with other parties and organizations. Northeastern Syria is polyethnic and home to sizeable ethnic Kurdish, Arab, and Assyrian populations, with smaller communities of ethnic Turkmen, Armenians, Circassians, and Yazidis.

> The supporters of the region's administration state that it is an officially secular polity with direct democratic ambitions based on democratic confederalism and libertarian socialism promoting decentralization, gender equality, environmental sustainability, social ecology, and pluralistic tolerance for religious, cultural, and political diversity, and that these values are mirrored in its constitution, society, and politics

So… you want a western liberal outcome?

diggingOP2y ago

Oh, you meant human rights and all that? Having ideals and ethics? Yes, that would be my hope. I thought you were referring to the neoliberal hegemony of wealthy Western nations.

llamaimperative2y ago

Yes, correct. Human rights is a liberal concept. Pluralism is a liberal concept. Secularism is a liberal concept. There are in fact lots of people who actually literally disagree with these ideals. Lots of ‘em in the Middle East, in fact, which is why you cannot assume that merely lifting the oppressor’s thumb would yield the outcome that’s so intrinsically appealing to your sensibilities that you’re struggling to even identify it as an opinion that you hold and that others may not.

No, I was referring to western liberalism that’s why I used the term western liberalism not “neoliberal hegemony of wealthy Western nations.”

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8note2y ago

The communists may have been bombed to death by the Turks and Russians when the US left?

But when a friend's brother was there, it was a communist spot

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llamaimperative2y ago

So… you want a western liberal outcome?

diggingOP2y ago

Oh, you meant human rights and all that? Having ideals and ethics? Yes, that would be my hope. I thought you were referring to the neoliberal hegemony of wealthy Western nations.

llamaimperative2y ago

No, I was referring to western liberalism that’s why I used the term western liberalism not “neoliberal hegemony of wealthy Western nations.”

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8note2y ago

The communists may have been bombed to death by the Turks and Russians when the US left?

But when a friend's brother was there, it was a communist spot

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse