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0 pointsrobbomacrae1y ago0 comments

Its not even "lite" genocide...

In 1999 Yugoslavia killed ~12 thousand Albanians and displaced ~85 thousand more. Bill Clintons secretary of defense had no problem calling that genocide: "The appalling accounts of mass killing in Kosovo and the pictures of refugees fleeing Serb oppression for their lives makes it clear that this is a fight for justice over genocide.". This led NATO to drop bombs on Yugoslavia [0].

In this conflict Israel has killed ~31 thousand Palestinians and displaced ~2.3 million more [1]. For all its tough talk the Biden administration has responded by selling Israel jet planes [2].

I'm not saying bombing Yugoslavia was justified. But there is plenty of historical precedent to call this conflict genocide.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_invasion_of_the_Gaza_S...

[2] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-administration...

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xyzelement1y ago

From what I recall of Yugoslavia - Milosevic was rounding up civilians explicitly.

Here we have a war. You cannot compare the two, not to mention the 31k number being unhinged from any credible source.

robbomacraeOP1y ago

I, at least, had sources. I tried looking evidence of this new fact about Yugoslavia you presented but could not find any.

It was called the Kosovo war. Why can we not compare the two? They seem VERY comparable to me.

But if Wikipedia and Al Jazeera are not good enough for you then you will see the following orgs also posted these numbers: NPR [0], BBC [1], NYTimes [2]. And if your worried those numbers are inflated there is an article in the Lancet that shows if anything it is the opposite [3].

[0]: https://www.npr.org/2024/02/29/1234159514/gaza-death-toll-30...

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ6Ny8_QViY

[2]: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/world/middleeast/gaza-dea...

[3]: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

NomDePlum1y ago

What is the war you talk of?

I have, from the UK, seem zero presence of any war in 2024.

Seen plenty of what looks like vile and indescrimate killing of random civilians by Israel.

Is the war the one that's killing multiple aid volunteers, or something else?

xyzelement1y ago

It sounds like you are unaware on the attack on Israel in October that intentionally killed about 1.5k civilians of which the current action is the consequence.

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0 pointsrobbomacrae1y ago0 comments

Its not even "lite" genocide...

In this conflict Israel has killed ~31 thousand Palestinians and displaced ~2.3 million more [1]. For all its tough talk the Biden administration has responded by selling Israel jet planes [2].

I'm not saying bombing Yugoslavia was justified. But there is plenty of historical precedent to call this conflict genocide.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_bombing_of_Yugoslavia

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_invasion_of_the_Gaza_S...

[2] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-administration...

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xyzelement1y ago

From what I recall of Yugoslavia - Milosevic was rounding up civilians explicitly.

Here we have a war. You cannot compare the two, not to mention the 31k number being unhinged from any credible source.

robbomacraeOP1y ago

I, at least, had sources. I tried looking evidence of this new fact about Yugoslavia you presented but could not find any.

It was called the Kosovo war. Why can we not compare the two? They seem VERY comparable to me.

[0]: https://www.npr.org/2024/02/29/1234159514/gaza-death-toll-30...

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ6Ny8_QViY

[2]: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/world/middleeast/gaza-dea...

[3]: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

NomDePlum1y ago

What is the war you talk of?

I have, from the UK, seem zero presence of any war in 2024.

Seen plenty of what looks like vile and indescrimate killing of random civilians by Israel.

Is the war the one that's killing multiple aid volunteers, or something else?

xyzelement1y ago

It sounds like you are unaware on the attack on Israel in October that intentionally killed about 1.5k civilians of which the current action is the consequence.

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