UniSuper's Google Cloud environment was deleted (opens in new tab)

(itnews.com.au)

36 pointssiganakis1y ago13 comments

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I guess Google no longer gets the same high they used to get from merely shutting down their own products, so they have now moved on to shutting down other peoples' products.

aabhay1y ago

We’ve had our google cloud account frozen without an explanation or advance notice. Google has just this really unshakable reputation of being risky. We now host only non-critical secondary infrastructure there

zx80801y ago

> Google has just this really unshakable reputation of being risky. We now host only non-critical secondary infrastructure there

Why hosting even non-critical infra there?

jsiepkes1y ago

> UniSuper said it lost cloud infrastructure in “two geographies”, a configuration it believed should have kept it safer in an outage situation.

But in the end, it's still a single system. As can be seen here. So it might help you when the DC burns down but it won't protect you from software bugs of your cloud provider.

deanCommie1y ago

Depends on the cloud provider. Some take regional independence (and even further, availability-zone independence) more seriously than the others.

Or to state it even more definitively, only one of the public cloud providers offers clear guarantees of availability-zone disaster recovery independence, never mind regions.

And it's not Google's or Microsoft's.

eddyfromtheblok1y ago

What a nightmare! At least they thought ahead to have backups on another provider. Does GCE not have deletion protection for databases, etc?

dualscyther1y ago

See discussion from yesterday too (with a much less alarming title)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40304666

justinclift1y ago

Wonder if Google will be on the hook liability and/or damages wise?

jsiepkes1y ago

They probably get a ton of GCP credits.

justinclift1y ago

Not sure they'd be willing to use GCE from here on, outside of the immediate need to get themselves online.

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hnburnsy1y ago

And yet my Google Wallet data going back 10 years is still around with no way for me to mass delete it.

ChrisArchitect1y ago

[dupe]

More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40313171

j / k navigate · click thread line to collapse

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saurik1y ago

I guess Google no longer gets the same high they used to get from merely shutting down their own products, so they have now moved on to shutting down other peoples' products.

aabhay1y ago

zx80801y ago

> Google has just this really unshakable reputation of being risky. We now host only non-critical secondary infrastructure there

Why hosting even non-critical infra there?

jsiepkes1y ago

> UniSuper said it lost cloud infrastructure in “two geographies”, a configuration it believed should have kept it safer in an outage situation.

But in the end, it's still a single system. As can be seen here. So it might help you when the DC burns down but it won't protect you from software bugs of your cloud provider.

deanCommie1y ago

Depends on the cloud provider. Some take regional independence (and even further, availability-zone independence) more seriously than the others.

Or to state it even more definitively, only one of the public cloud providers offers clear guarantees of availability-zone disaster recovery independence, never mind regions.

And it's not Google's or Microsoft's.

eddyfromtheblok1y ago

What a nightmare! At least they thought ahead to have backups on another provider. Does GCE not have deletion protection for databases, etc?

dualscyther1y ago

See discussion from yesterday too (with a much less alarming title)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40304666

justinclift1y ago

Wonder if Google will be on the hook liability and/or damages wise?

jsiepkes1y ago

They probably get a ton of GCP credits.

justinclift1y ago

Not sure they'd be willing to use GCE from here on, outside of the immediate need to get themselves online.