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0 pointserickhill1y ago0 comments

I think it’s safe to say Siri and Alexa are officially dead. They look like dusty storefront mannequins next to Battlestar replicants at this point.

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jimkleiber1y ago

Or Apple is rarely if ever the first mover on a new tech and just waits to refine the user experience for people?

Maybe Apple is not that close and Siri will be really far behind for a while. I just wouldn't count them out yet.

partiallypro1y ago

From the time Apple bought Siri, it hasn't even delivered on the promises of the company it bought as of yet. It's been such a lackluster product. I wouldn't count them out, but it doesn't even feel like they are in.

CooCooCaCha1y ago

Apple really dropped the ball when it comes to Siri. For years I watched WWDC thinking "surely they'll update siri this year" and they still haven't given it a significant update.

If you'd have told me 10 years ago that Apple would wait this long to update siri I would have been like no way, that's crazy.

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ryankrage771y ago

This can't set alarms, timers, play music, etc. The only current overlapping use case I see is checking the weather (assuming GPT-4o can search online), and Siri is already fine for that.

Amazing tech, but still lacking in the integrations I'd want to use voice for.

nojvek1y ago

Very easy to plug in that capability with tool use. Gpt3+ already support using tools/json schema output.

rrrrrrrrrrrryan1y ago

Apple actually threw in the towel. OpenAI is going to be powering the next version of Siri.

bamboozled1y ago

Why do people beat up on Siri so much ? It does all the basic stuff I need it to do fine. Could it be better, yes. But it’s made my easier and safer while driving especially.

I’m not even sure if people who rag on it use it ?

xcv1231y ago

Siri runs locally on the device. It works with internet completely disabled (airplane mode). You can't run any LLM on a phone.

tiagod1y ago

You can run a bunch of LLMs on a phone (such as llama), depending on which phone you have.

TOMDM1y ago

Apple would need to stick an m4 in the next iPhone to even hope to run something like this and I bet that GPT4o would run either slowly, poorly, or not at all on a top spec m4.

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gverrilla1y ago

Don't know about Alexa, but Siri and Google Assistant are only toys.

Tepix1y ago

Can OpenAI change your thermostat?

BoorishBears1y ago

I had 3.5 producing valid Home Assistant commands within weeks of release, now we have tool usage so yeah, it definitely can.

wmurmann1y ago

If apple made Siri impressive then less people would need apps. Less apps = less revenue.

ec1096851y ago

I wonder how much Siri being brain dead is due to it being free. The OpenAI version likely costs 1000x more than Apple’s per query, but is rate limited. Would Apple release something similar for free?

xcv1231y ago

Siri runs locally on the device. The cost would be prohibitive if they changed it to an LLM running in the cloud.

dannyw1y ago

Good thing there’s iCloud subscriptions huh.

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jimkleiber1y ago

Or Apple is rarely if ever the first mover on a new tech and just waits to refine the user experience for people?

Maybe Apple is not that close and Siri will be really far behind for a while. I just wouldn't count them out yet.

partiallypro1y ago

CooCooCaCha1y ago

Apple really dropped the ball when it comes to Siri. For years I watched WWDC thinking "surely they'll update siri this year" and they still haven't given it a significant update.

If you'd have told me 10 years ago that Apple would wait this long to update siri I would have been like no way, that's crazy.

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ryankrage771y ago

This can't set alarms, timers, play music, etc. The only current overlapping use case I see is checking the weather (assuming GPT-4o can search online), and Siri is already fine for that.

Amazing tech, but still lacking in the integrations I'd want to use voice for.

nojvek1y ago

Very easy to plug in that capability with tool use. Gpt3+ already support using tools/json schema output.

rrrrrrrrrrrryan1y ago

Apple actually threw in the towel. OpenAI is going to be powering the next version of Siri.

bamboozled1y ago

Why do people beat up on Siri so much ? It does all the basic stuff I need it to do fine. Could it be better, yes. But it’s made my easier and safer while driving especially.

I’m not even sure if people who rag on it use it ?

xcv1231y ago

Siri runs locally on the device. It works with internet completely disabled (airplane mode). You can't run any LLM on a phone.

tiagod1y ago

You can run a bunch of LLMs on a phone (such as llama), depending on which phone you have.

TOMDM1y ago

Apple would need to stick an m4 in the next iPhone to even hope to run something like this and I bet that GPT4o would run either slowly, poorly, or not at all on a top spec m4.

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gverrilla1y ago

Don't know about Alexa, but Siri and Google Assistant are only toys.

Tepix1y ago

Can OpenAI change your thermostat?

BoorishBears1y ago

I had 3.5 producing valid Home Assistant commands within weeks of release, now we have tool usage so yeah, it definitely can.

wmurmann1y ago

If apple made Siri impressive then less people would need apps. Less apps = less revenue.

ec1096851y ago

xcv1231y ago

Siri runs locally on the device. The cost would be prohibitive if they changed it to an LLM running in the cloud.

dannyw1y ago

Good thing there’s iCloud subscriptions huh.

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