There aren’t that many opportunities for people these days, especially at the senior level where titles and compensation is still inflated due to 2020-2022 grants.
You are joking, right? Apple, SpaceX and Microsoft are not the only game in town.
I am sure you can name a couple, but I am skeptical that there are that many comparable roles available within those companies at this time.
If you take away an employee perk/benefit, employees get upset.
The lesson learned is, most companies didn't realize allowing WFH (due to COVID) would be perceived as an employee benefit.
It provides real, non-negligible value to sit in the same room as your coworkers. If companies want to reap that value though, they are going to have to pay for it. I think the days of setting up shop in downtown SF and just expecting talent to show up are over.
Please cite a reputable source for this unsubstantiated and unsubstantiatable claim. eg: to me it provides a negative value (commute, noise, lack of my cat). To my employer it also provides negative value: my lower productivity, my much higher chance to GTFO to a more sane workplace.
I can and do communicate with my coworkers over slack and zoom just fine. As my job does not require touching them, no problems are created by this arrangement.
Clearly there are some amount of intangibles that the corporations care about, otherwise why would they bother with RTO at all instead of just firing everyone and offshoring the entire team? This is kind of the argument we are making for them.
That’s why I’m not there today. (I turned down a full time offer)
The value businesses get from putting employees in the same room is making it harder to go elsewhere (creating a fake “family”), and managers get to feel like they have control and ownership of their plebs.
There are also people who use office life as surrogate social lives, and they seem to be the employees they were most in favour of mandatory RTO - “I can’t deal with not having a forcefully created social environment, so I’m going to demand that everyone come back”
The first man wishes to be home with his family, his wish is granted.
The second man wishes to be in Vegas with lots of money, his wish is granted.
The third man says "I'm really lonely now... I wish those guys were back here with me"
Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40339852
I expect driving senior talent away is part of the strategy - the senior talent demands the highest compensation, which is what these employers are combatting industry-wide and in coordination. They want to hire them back at lower wages later on.
>Microsoft, which also enacted a hybrid RTO approach, saw a decline of 5 percentage points.
Requiring people to come to the office 3 days a week for no reason other than executives and managers getting off on control is moronic.
“Hybrid” RTO has literally no benefit over RTO except for being able to say “hybrid”.
It forces all of the same problems as RTO - cost and location of living, planning for not being home, massive commute times, etc
It should look something like: hiring should be slow, retention should be longer-than-average, morale should be excellent (inc. devoid of toxic negativity and toxic positivity), and the burden of leadership undertaken by preselection coupled with sortition and a governance body comprised of representative workers.