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0 pointsra71y ago0 comments

> People go weeks without intervention.

https://www.teslafsdtracker.com puts miles to disengagement at 30 and miles to critical disengagement at 300 for all v12.x.y versions. Note: this is crowdsourced data and the users themselves get to decide what's critical and what's not.

As far as numbers required to make it fully self driving, it's at least 3 orders of magnitude worse than the big players. Waymo and Cruise routinely had 30,000+ miles per disengagement during their California testing. That's one disengagement for roughly 3 years of driving.

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Zigurd1y ago

TBF robotaxis have a much higher duty cycle than a private car, so much sooner than 3 years. Something like twice per year per taxi, I'd estimate. But that doesn't take away from what a travesty it is to claim FSD will be robotaxiing anytime soon. 30 miles to disengagement would amount to 5-7 times per day per taxi.

On top of all that, Waymo does intensive 3d mapping for their service locations. These maps have to be maintained. Then the cars need sensors that take advantage of those 3D maps. If that combination of intensive mapping and LIDAR sensing turns out to be necessary to get beyond FSD's current and near future performance, then Tesla isn't even at the starting line.

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> People go weeks without intervention.

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