Eh, I haven't seen it. Maybe my company is a mess. Usually they think they know what they’re doing and can contribute on delivering individual tasks. But it seems they lack the background on the strategy, business acumen, and reasoning behind the technical architecture. So yeah, they're productive in the role, but they probably haven't learned enough of value to significantly grow and bring thought leadership to their next role. Especially regarding longterm implementations of their designs/actions since theyre just onto the next thing.